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Re: The Old Radio Times #110 (Sept.-Oct.) is now available

Larry Maupin
 

Ryan, another great Old Radio Times.  Thank you again for all the time and effort you put in to making each issue the best it can possibly be.  I'm not sure whether the clipping about Linda's First Love is from a newspaper or a WJR press release, but it is priceless!

Also, thanks to Mike for the link to Facebook.

Larry

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From: "Mike Thomas via groups.io"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Sunday November 8 2020 9:55:56PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] The Old Radio Times #110 (Sept.-Oct.) is now available

I read it all immediately. Great job!


On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 3:44 PM, Ryan Ellett via groups.io
<oldradiotimes@...> wrote:
The latest issue of the Old Radio times is available here. It features pieces by Karl Schadow, Jim Cox, Gavin Callaghan, Martin Grams, Larry Maupin, and more. Enjoy!
http://otrr.org/.../Times_Archive_pdf/2020_05%20SeptOct.pdf

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Larry Maupin


Re: The Old Radio Times #110 (Sept.-Oct.) is now available

Mike Thomas
 

I read it all immediately. Great job!


On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 3:44 PM, Ryan Ellett via groups.io
<oldradiotimes@...> wrote:
The latest issue of the Old Radio times is available here. It features pieces by Karl Schadow, Jim Cox, Gavin Callaghan, Martin Grams, Larry Maupin, and more. Enjoy!
http://otrr.org/.../Times_Archive_pdf/2020_05%20SeptOct.pdf


The Old Radio Times #110 (Sept.-Oct.) is now available

Ryan Ellett
 

The latest issue of the Old Radio times is available here. It features pieces by Karl Schadow, Jim Cox, Gavin Callaghan, Martin Grams, Larry Maupin, and more. Enjoy!
http://otrr.org/.../Times_Archive_pdf/2020_05%20SeptOct.pdf


Re: New Collection Acquired

Joe Webb
 

WHISTLER NEWS!

Larry Gassman of SPERDVAC and Same Time Same Station fame was following the thread and he sent me this short segment with Roy Rowan and Wilbur Hatch talking about the Whistler music https://www.dropbox.com/s/6s6qd4c71yqg3pr/Roy%20Rowan%20with%20Wilbur%20Hatch%20talking%20about%20the%20Whistler%20Music.mp3?dl=0

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Re: New Collection Acquired

K & J Hammel
 

Thanks so much for looking to see if there was any Howie Wing. Hope your eyes are not going too wonky with all that bad handwriting.

Kathy

On Saturday, November 7, 2020, 03:22:42 AM PST, Joe Webb via groups.io <drjoewebb@...> wrote:


Catching up on a couple of items

Howie Wing: I went through the reels again as I continue to sort and ship and there were no HW's. Another case of bad handwriting on reel contents sheets that I thought was something else... oh well

Classical music: I will look again -- it wasn't much. I think I already shipped the reel or two to one of the other music fans in the transferring group

Whistler: I'm not aware of a straight recording of the music or a musical score. FYI, if you're a fan of the show, visit https://sites.google.com/view/the-whistler-files/home  -- there's a link to "The Whistler Song" by the Modernaires -- and the lyrics!! :)   The song may be around in sheet music form and there might be enough measures of the true show theme the way it was intended (or close to it) to figure out what you need

Scanning documents: still looking for document scanner folks -- I know some of this thread mentioned that they were available -- if you still are, and still confident you can help out, please contact me directly by email and we can get into more detailed conversation that way. Still have a stack each of 2500 sheets for Lone Ranger and Sgt Preston scripts. Some of the other scripts that have been scanned are almost ready to share on line!

Lum & Abner: there are some reels and cassettes that need to be transferred, and could use someone very familiar with L&A plotlines and dates to do it. I don't think there will be missing episodes in there, but there may be upgrades.

Carleton Morse shows: There is a batch of about 50 reels of ILAM, I Love Adventure, and especially One Man's Family that need to be transferred. If you cannot do audio processing, we have folks who have volunteered to do that work. All we need are transfers from reel to WAV files to get the process rolling.

THANKS ALL for your help!!





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Re: Hopalong Cassidy

Jim Jones
 

Thanks. Added to set.
Any chance you have ep 44 - Death Runs Dry?

jj


Re: New Collection Acquired

Jim Jones
 

 
Joe
I hope there are some missing episodes to fill in ILAM.
 
jj
 
 

From: Joe Webb via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:22 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] New Collection Acquired
 
Catching up on a couple of items

Howie Wing: I went through the reels again as I continue to sort and ship and there were no HW's. Another case of bad handwriting on reel contents sheets that I thought was something else... oh well

Classical music: I will look again -- it wasn't much. I think I already shipped the reel or two to one of the other music fans in the transferring group

Whistler: I'm not aware of a straight recording of the music or a musical score. FYI, if you're a fan of the show, visit https://sites.google.com/view/the-whistler-files/home  -- there's a link to "The Whistler Song" by the Modernaires -- and the lyrics!! :)   The song may be around in sheet music form and there might be enough measures of the true show theme the way it was intended (or close to it) to figure out what you need

Scanning documents: still looking for document scanner folks -- I know some of this thread mentioned that they were available -- if you still are, and still confident you can help out, please contact me directly by email and we can get into more detailed conversation that way. Still have a stack each of 2500 sheets for Lone Ranger and Sgt Preston scripts. Some of the other scripts that have been scanned are almost ready to share on line!

Lum & Abner: there are some reels and cassettes that need to be transferred, and could use someone very familiar with L&A plotlines and dates to do it. I don't think there will be missing episodes in there, but there may be upgrades.

Carleton Morse shows: There is a batch of about 50 reels of ILAM, I Love Adventure, and especially One Man's Family that need to be transferred. If you cannot do audio processing, we have folks who have volunteered to do that work. All we need are transfers from reel to WAV files to get the process rolling.

THANKS ALL for your help!!





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Re: New Collection Acquired

Ian Grieve
 

Thanks Joe.



Sent from my SAMSUNG Galaxy S7 on the Telstra Mobile Network


-------- Original message --------
From: "Joe Webb via groups.io" <drjoewebb@...>
Date: 7/11/20 9:22 pm (GMT+10:00)
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] New Collection Acquired

Catching up on a couple of items

Howie Wing: I went through the reels again as I continue to sort and ship and there were no HW's. Another case of bad handwriting on reel contents sheets that I thought was something else... oh well

Classical music: I will look again -- it wasn't much. I think I already shipped the reel or two to one of the other music fans in the transferring group

Whistler: I'm not aware of a straight recording of the music or a musical score. FYI, if you're a fan of the show, visit https://sites.google.com/view/the-whistler-files/home  -- there's a link to "The Whistler Song" by the Modernaires -- and the lyrics!! :)   The song may be around in sheet music form and there might be enough measures of the true show theme the way it was intended (or close to it) to figure out what you need

Scanning documents: still looking for document scanner folks -- I know some of this thread mentioned that they were available -- if you still are, and still confident you can help out, please contact me directly by email and we can get into more detailed conversation that way. Still have a stack each of 2500 sheets for Lone Ranger and Sgt Preston scripts. Some of the other scripts that have been scanned are almost ready to share on line!

Lum & Abner: there are some reels and cassettes that need to be transferred, and could use someone very familiar with L&A plotlines and dates to do it. I don't think there will be missing episodes in there, but there may be upgrades.

Carleton Morse shows: There is a batch of about 50 reels of ILAM, I Love Adventure, and especially One Man's Family that need to be transferred. If you cannot do audio processing, we have folks who have volunteered to do that work. All we need are transfers from reel to WAV files to get the process rolling.

THANKS ALL for your help!!





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Re: New Collection Acquired

Joe Webb
 

Catching up on a couple of items

Howie Wing: I went through the reels again as I continue to sort and ship and there were no HW's. Another case of bad handwriting on reel contents sheets that I thought was something else... oh well

Classical music: I will look again -- it wasn't much. I think I already shipped the reel or two to one of the other music fans in the transferring group

Whistler: I'm not aware of a straight recording of the music or a musical score. FYI, if you're a fan of the show, visit https://sites.google.com/view/the-whistler-files/home  -- there's a link to "The Whistler Song" by the Modernaires -- and the lyrics!! :)   The song may be around in sheet music form and there might be enough measures of the true show theme the way it was intended (or close to it) to figure out what you need

Scanning documents: still looking for document scanner folks -- I know some of this thread mentioned that they were available -- if you still are, and still confident you can help out, please contact me directly by email and we can get into more detailed conversation that way. Still have a stack each of 2500 sheets for Lone Ranger and Sgt Preston scripts. Some of the other scripts that have been scanned are almost ready to share on line!

Lum & Abner: there are some reels and cassettes that need to be transferred, and could use someone very familiar with L&A plotlines and dates to do it. I don't think there will be missing episodes in there, but there may be upgrades.

Carleton Morse shows: There is a batch of about 50 reels of ILAM, I Love Adventure, and especially One Man's Family that need to be transferred. If you cannot do audio processing, we have folks who have volunteered to do that work. All we need are transfers from reel to WAV files to get the process rolling.

THANKS ALL for your help!!





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Re: Hopalong Cassidy

Richard Davenport
 

Heres a better one...

Labor ipse voluptas


On Friday, November 6, 2020, 9:07:54 PM CST, Ryan Ellett via groups.io <oldradiotimes@...> wrote:


A lot of people may have already downloaded the Hoppy set that Jim posted, but our Certified set will also be updated  with all this work he's done. So if you would like the show but in the Maintained format with the accompanying documentation, that will be coming soon through our normal channels!
Ryan

www.RyanEllett.com


The Old Time Radio Researchers
"Saving the Past for the Future"

www.OTRR.org
www.OTRRLibrary.org



On Thursday, November 5, 2020, 03:43:19 PM CST, Jim Jones <otr@...> wrote:


I have been working on upgrading the OTRR groups Hopalong Cassidy Certified shows. 
Ryan has found and provided me a new collection of shows in addition to the Certified Series. Approximately 30% of these shows were determined to be better copies than the Cert Series.
I have replaced the OTRR collection with these better quality shows
Also. many of the Certified shows had cropped or incomplete intros or endings. I have patched these shows and made ALL Hoppy shows now complete.
I have normalized many of the low volume shows. I have also adjusted the Bass and Treble on many over processed shows to make them easier and more enjoyable to listen to.
28 shows included 4-6 min of musical interludes where commercials were supposed to be inserted. I cropped these interludes making those show more continuous to listen to.

To complete the series with better quality shows, I would like to replace 6 of the lowest quality shows. These are shows which I only rate FAIR quality. I would appreciate it if someone could provide me with better quality shows for the following episodes.
Episode 25 - The Medicine Man
Episode 26 - The Flying Outlaw
Episode 42 - Hoppy Pays a  Debt
Episode 43 -  Hoppy Turns on the Heat
Episode 51 - The Mystery of the Diamond 'Z'
Episode 68 -  Stagecoach West

Thanks in advance.
A Hoppy Fan


Re: Hopalong Cassidy

Ryan Ellett
 

A lot of people may have already downloaded the Hoppy set that Jim posted, but our Certified set will also be updated  with all this work he's done. So if you would like the show but in the Maintained format with the accompanying documentation, that will be coming soon through our normal channels!
Ryan

www.RyanEllett.com


The Old Time Radio Researchers
"Saving the Past for the Future"

www.OTRR.org
www.OTRRLibrary.org



On Thursday, November 5, 2020, 03:43:19 PM CST, Jim Jones <otr@...> wrote:


I have been working on upgrading the OTRR groups Hopalong Cassidy Certified shows. 
Ryan has found and provided me a new collection of shows in addition to the Certified Series. Approximately 30% of these shows were determined to be better copies than the Cert Series.
I have replaced the OTRR collection with these better quality shows
Also. many of the Certified shows had cropped or incomplete intros or endings. I have patched these shows and made ALL Hoppy shows now complete.
I have normalized many of the low volume shows. I have also adjusted the Bass and Treble on many over processed shows to make them easier and more enjoyable to listen to.
28 shows included 4-6 min of musical interludes where commercials were supposed to be inserted. I cropped these interludes making those show more continuous to listen to.

To complete the series with better quality shows, I would like to replace 6 of the lowest quality shows. These are shows which I only rate FAIR quality. I would appreciate it if someone could provide me with better quality shows for the following episodes.
Episode 25 - The Medicine Man
Episode 26 - The Flying Outlaw
Episode 42 - Hoppy Pays a  Debt
Episode 43 -  Hoppy Turns on the Heat
Episode 51 - The Mystery of the Diamond 'Z'
Episode 68 -  Stagecoach West

Thanks in advance.
A Hoppy Fan


Re: Hopalong Cassidy

Ian Grieve
 

G'day Jim, what a fantastic experience.  Gives you an insight into the man.

Ian

------ Original Message ------
From: "Jim Jones" <otr@...>
Sent: 7/11/2020 12:31:55 AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Hopalong Cassidy

Ian:
Fascinating story! Yes the cowboy heroes of that time were much admired. When they renamed Berwyn, OK to   Gene Autry, OK 35,000 people attended the ceremony. Pretty amazing for a town of about 200 people during the height of WWII.

My personal experience with Hopalong Cassidy happened during a Rose Parade in Pasadena. I was a young boy around 5 or 6 years old. The parade had come to a brief stop, which it frequently did. During the pause, Hoppy came riding up. He saw me, reached down and pulled me up and sat me there with him on top of Topper. We rode around for a couple of minutes waving to the crowd. The parade started up again. He returned me to my parents and then rode off. Such a big event in a young boys life. I remember it like yesterday, and that was over 70 years ago.

I believe that one of the things that made the cowboy heroes of that time special is that they all had Creeds or Codes they published and encouraged children to live by. These creeds included respect of parents, country, hard work, studying hard, being clean and courteous, going to church, being truthful, helping others . . . and on and on. Hoppy had the "Hopalong Cassidy Creed for American Boys and Girls". Gene Autry - "Gene Autry Cowboy Code of Honor". Roy Rogers - "Roy Rogers Riders Club Rules". Lone Ranger - "The Lone Ranger's Creed". . . and many others had their Cods of Conduct including Tom Mix, Buck Jones, Wild Bill Hickock. It is no wonder these matinee heroes we so admired and respected, they promoted simple life values our country once strongly believed in.

Thanks again for your insightful William Boyd story. 

jj


Re: Hoppy Upgrade

Jim Jones
 

I forgot to mention that there are 2 shows that have been edited by a local radio station. After removing the local radio station's promo the Hoppy shows are short (23min total). This is about 3-4 min short of all the other shows. I think station must have edited out a few minutes to fit their programming slot.

The quality of these 2 shows are excellent, However, I would like to find some completes episodes without the local promos and "Stagecoach Theater" references in hopes of filling in any deleted dialogue. 

The 2 shows are:
  • Ep 97 - California or Bust
  • Ep 98 - Death Comes Invited
Thanks

jj


Hoppy Upgrade

Jim Jones
 

Ryan
Here is a link to the Hoppy Upgrades. You can download them from here. I will email you a copy of my updated spreadsheet. 

https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZwYkzXZycOyyKe9bIfA1WuSaPaFH7cT8hn7

This collection is far superior to our OTRR Cert series.

I would still like to upgrade the following 3 episodes if we could find better copies:
  • Episode 26 - The Flying Outlaw
  • Episode 42 - Hoppy Pays a  Debt
  • Episode 68 -  Stagecoach West
Anyone else who would like to upgrade their Hopalong Cassidy programs please feel free to use the above link to down the folder/files.

If any upgraded shows are found, I will update them in this folder also.

jj


Re: Hopalong Cassidy

B. J. Watkins
 

You're welcome, Jim. Loved your Hoppy story. I'm jealous!


From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> on behalf of Jim Jones <otr@...>
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 7:04 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Hopalong Cassidy
 
B.J. Watkins
Excellent quality. I would like 105 shows of this caliber.
Will add this to the upgrade.
Thanks,
jj


Re: Hopalong Cassidy

Jim Jones
 

B.J. Watkins
Excellent quality. I would like 105 shows of this caliber.
Will add this to the upgrade.
Thanks,
jj


Re: New Collection Acquired

not.serious@comcast.net
 

Joe,

Are there any classical music broadcasts in this new collection? That is something I could certainly help with....transfer and ID.

On a different note, is there any recording of the Whistler's music w/o the voice over? Have you ever seen this music in print, in musical score or arrangement for piano?

Thanks!

Stay safe.

Joe Salerno

On 10/19/2020 4:25 AM, Joe Webb via groups.io wrote:
We need some helpers in processing many of these reels. While we find some items that fell out of circulation or were never widely circulated in this collection that is mainly from the late 1960s through the 1970s, there are many upgrades to be had. A Suspense episode, for example, that has circulated for years with clipped ending and no credits with a bad sounding music patch at the end, is here in all of its fullness, unedited, and unpatched.

We could use a Vic & Sade fan with reel decks who can transfer files to wavs and then send them onto someone else who can do the sound processing. V&S episodes in this collection are often not dated and have poor plot descriptions. I think once these are transferred and sound processed these episodes can get a good upgrade.

This person seemed to like recording Notre Dame football games and some other sports. And there are many musical programs. It may turn out that many of the transfers are not upgrades, but there's only one way to find out -- digitize them and put them through audio cleanup. If anyone has reel decks and is good at creating raw transfers, please volunteer if you can. We have folks who can do the audio processing as they do not have decks, and are ready to help out.

The reels are generally 1200' half track @ 7.5ips, which was the standard of the higher end collectors of the time. The squealing tapes have all transferred will with baking or with moisture depending on the kind of tape; everything seems transferable, and much of the sound is wonderful. One of the Night Beat episodes that has never been available in nice sound has been "Gusher James" and there was an extremely nice recording of it here, only a tape generation removed from the original disc recording. Three new Big Story episodes was a shocker the other day -- not a hint that these late series episodes were even available, from AFRS discs.

We could use someone who is very competent at using a document scanner and can make PDFs, and knows how to use document feeders with some mildly delicate scripts.

I still have a lot of sorting to do, so other "specialists" in various series will be needed.

More details about this collection will be coming soon, and it was the OTRR PG that played a key role in this entire enterprise that is still unfolding.

Thanks to everyone involved!!

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Re: Hopalong Cassidy

B. J. Watkins
 


From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> on behalf of Jim Jones <otr@...>
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 6:36 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Hopalong Cassidy
 
Thanks Richard.
That is the file I have and am trying to replace. I have run it through Audacity and improved it some, but would still like a better copy.
Thanks again
jj


Re: Hopalong Cassidy

Jim Jones
 

Thanks Richard.
That is the file I have and am trying to replace. I have run it through Audacity and improved it some, but would still like a better copy.
Thanks again
jj


Re: Hopalong Cassidy

B. J. Watkins
 

Rick wrote "I also found that based on the sequence of dates there is a show that would have aired on 51-02-29.  #371 which would have been on that date got bumped forward to the next date in the sequence (51-03-01) to be precise.   Jerry did not mention this in his list.  Does anyone have any idea what happened on that date that might have caused the pre-empting?"

Yes! 1951 was not a leap year. Therefore, there was no Feb 29 that year! That date was March 1.

Barbara


From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> on behalf of Ryan Ellett via groups.io <oldradiotimes@...>
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 6:19 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Hopalong Cassidy
 
Per Cox's book, episode 371 (1331) aired Thursday February 22, 1951 and episode 372 (1332) aired the next week on Thursday March 1, 1951. I don't see a missing show in there.
Ryan

www.RyanEllett.com


The Old Time Radio Researchers
"Saving the Past for the Future"

www.OTRR.org
www.OTRRLibrary.org



On Friday, November 6, 2020, 01:37:20 AM CST, Richard Davenport <klingon1@...> wrote:


I am working through the creation of the full list of the Mister Keene programs.  I initially used Jerry H's site but found he had made a mistake.  He skipped #41 and that threw the dates off.  It drove me crazing trying to sort it out till I used Excel to get it cleared up. 

I also found that based on the sequence of dates there is a show that would have aired on 51-02-29.  #371 which would have been on that date got bumped forward to the next date in the sequence (51-03-01) to be precise.   Jerry did not mention this in his list.  Does anyone have any idea what happened on that date that might have caused the pre-empting? 

Rick

Labor ipse voluptas


On Thursday, November 5, 2020, 5:52:44 PM CST, Ian Grieve <austotr@...> wrote:


Late 1954 William Boyd did a World Tour raising awareness and funds for Crippled Children.  Lots of Hopalong Crippled Children Appeal Badges appear on Ebay still.

After England he came to Australia November 1954.  One of the things he was contracted to do was a segment on 'Bonnington's Bunkhouse Show' which was being filmed at 'Wirth's' Circus.  As an aside, I met Will Hutchins at the last FOTR and he told me about how he loved his time in Australia touring with a Circus, but I don't remember which circus it was, was it 'Wirths'?  Anyway William Boyd as Hopalong Cassidy turned up at 'Wirths' in Melbourne for the recording.  The cast of 'Bonnington's Bunkhouse Show' was flown down from Sydney and they got things started.  But the popularity of Hopalong Cassidy was so great that William Boyd was mobbed by 10,000 kids wanting autographs.  Boyd couldn't settle them down and the whole thing was cancelled.  Boyd did his segment in his hotel room later that night and the cast flew back to Sydney and did the recording of the show there and included the Boyd segment.

Fame, sometimes not so fleeting.  I have included the newspaper reports of the above on a couple of the Australian Radio History groups in the past and several of the radio people admitted being there as kids.

Ian

------ Original Message ------
From: "Jim Jones" <otr@...>
Sent: 6/11/2020 9:02:08 AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Hopalong Cassidy

Thanks those 4 shows are much better.
Will stick them in
jj

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