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Re: Springbok Radio

Scott Mahan
 

people will just do what they want anyway

Love it. What more can be said?

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ian Grieve
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 9:20 PM
To: main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Springbok Radio

 

Hardly a week goes by when I don't speak out against the Australian Archives for just that.  I do it because I know a representative of the Archives is in 3 of the Australian Radio groups (different person in each group)  its called feedback and I do it when it is warranted, when I know the facts.  You can't condemn a person, persons, Archive for not sharing material they are legally bound not too, or that they have spent decades doing the research and expected to just hand it over.

 

The subject is boring and people will just do what they want anyway.

 

Ian

 

------ Original Message ------

From: "Richard Davenport" <klingon1@...>

Sent: 28/09/2021 11:25:38 AM

Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Springbok Radio

 

I fail to see what the big deal is about folks asking questions about SA radio.  I have found that some folks or institutions seem to really pucker up when it comings to sharing information or files.  I also have a passion for movie serials and have built a very comprehensive spreadsheet about what I believe to be every single one ever released.  I have a pretty decent collection of digital versions of the chapters of the various serials.  I will not name names but those of us here who appreciate a good serial probably know of to whom I refer.  It does the world no good if things are stuck in a dark warehouse on a shelf when the holder thinks there is some sort of monetary value in it as the most important aspect of having them.  I am a preserver and it irks me to no end when things sit around on dusty shelves and get forgotten about.  There are those with skills to digitize, restore and preserve these lost treasures of the past eras.  I also have a very large spreadsheet I maintain with information on all known radio shows.  It is far from complete but it is where I dump facts on the shows as I learn them.  I am working now on a complete listing of all FM&M shows so folks can check of what they have and need and have something to refer to as needed. 

 

Rick

 

Labor ipse voluptas

 

 

On Monday, September 27, 2021, 06:41:26 PM CDT, Scott Galley via groups.io <scottgalley@...> wrote:

 

 

This will be the last I will say on this subject. If we look at my initial post, all I was doing (which I regret now, and find a trifle embarrassing) was to showcase my enthusiasm to this group and to say that I enjoyed what little I've heard of South African radio, and was wondering if there was a book on the subject. That was all. I wasn't trying to steal someone's research, incorrectly date files, or post stuff to some sort of online site. Or charge money for anything. Quite the contrary. I was willing to spend money if there was a good book on the subject, just as I've done on dozens of other books on the subject of golden age radio broadcasters from all over the world. Seems pretty harmless to me to just simply ask if there's a book out there somewhere.

Further to that, I've enjoyed your site Ian, and have posted a couple of comments there over the years thanking you for expanding my knowledge of Australian radio. I don't understand the difference. Is South Africa's radio heritage the domain of a few? I seriously doubt that the people involved in the creation of that content up until 1985 would like to know that someone thinks that the shows are their private pleasure garden. But maybe I'm wrong.

Regardless, I did not intend to start a flame war of any sort. My initial post was just an innocent burst of enthusiasm. I will not make that mistake again, and will go back to just being a reader of posts. Fewer headaches.


Re: Springbok Radio

Scott Mahan
 

On a calmer note.

There was a time when, if you knew who to email, you could get SABC to transcribe Springbok stuff for you if you sent them the appropriate Rand, which they had a schedule for.

Which, of course, you had to figure out how to do that. Rand used to be worth more than they are now, so it was sort of expensive.

But I really loved “Squad Cars”, which is right up there with “Calling All Cars” and “Tales of the Texas Rangers”. So … I have a small collection of these.

Anyone else have any SABC discs? Some of my favorite toys.

 

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Davenport
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:26 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Springbok Radio

 

I fail to see what the big deal is about folks asking questions about SA radio.  I have found that some folks or institutions seem to really pucker up when it comings to sharing information or files.  I also have a passion for movie serials and have built a very comprehensive spreadsheet about what I believe to be every single one ever released.  I have a pretty decent collection of digital versions of the chapters of the various serials.  I will not name names but those of us here who appreciate a good serial probably know of to whom I refer.  It does the world no good if things are stuck in a dark warehouse on a shelf when the holder thinks there is some sort of monetary value in it as the most important aspect of having them.  I am a preserver and it irks me to no end when things sit around on dusty shelves and get forgotten about.  There are those with skills to digitize, restore and preserve these lost treasures of the past eras.  I also have a very large spreadsheet I maintain with information on all known radio shows.  It is far from complete but it is where I dump facts on the shows as I learn them.  I am working now on a complete listing of all FM&M shows so folks can check of what they have and need and have something to refer to as needed. 

 

Rick

 

Labor ipse voluptas

 

 

On Monday, September 27, 2021, 06:41:26 PM CDT, Scott Galley via groups.io <scottgalley@...> wrote:

 

 

This will be the last I will say on this subject. If we look at my initial post, all I was doing (which I regret now, and find a trifle embarrassing) was to showcase my enthusiasm to this group and to say that I enjoyed what little I've heard of South African radio, and was wondering if there was a book on the subject. That was all. I wasn't trying to steal someone's research, incorrectly date files, or post stuff to some sort of online site. Or charge money for anything. Quite the contrary. I was willing to spend money if there was a good book on the subject, just as I've done on dozens of other books on the subject of golden age radio broadcasters from all over the world. Seems pretty harmless to me to just simply ask if there's a book out there somewhere.

Further to that, I've enjoyed your site Ian, and have posted a couple of comments there over the years thanking you for expanding my knowledge of Australian radio. I don't understand the difference. Is South Africa's radio heritage the domain of a few? I seriously doubt that the people involved in the creation of that content up until 1985 would like to know that someone thinks that the shows are their private pleasure garden. But maybe I'm wrong.

Regardless, I did not intend to start a flame war of any sort. My initial post was just an innocent burst of enthusiasm. I will not make that mistake again, and will go back to just being a reader of posts. Fewer headaches.


Re: Springbok Radio

Ian Grieve
 

Hardly a week goes by when I don't speak out against the Australian Archives for just that.  I do it because I know a representative of the Archives is in 3 of the Australian Radio groups (different person in each group)  its called feedback and I do it when it is warranted, when I know the facts.  You can't condemn a person, persons, Archive for not sharing material they are legally bound not too, or that they have spent decades doing the research and expected to just hand it over.

The subject is boring and people will just do what they want anyway.

Ian

------ Original Message ------
From: "Richard Davenport" <klingon1@...>
Sent: 28/09/2021 11:25:38 AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Springbok Radio

I fail to see what the big deal is about folks asking questions about SA radio.  I have found that some folks or institutions seem to really pucker up when it comings to sharing information or files.  I also have a passion for movie serials and have built a very comprehensive spreadsheet about what I believe to be every single one ever released.  I have a pretty decent collection of digital versions of the chapters of the various serials.  I will not name names but those of us here who appreciate a good serial probably know of to whom I refer.  It does the world no good if things are stuck in a dark warehouse on a shelf when the holder thinks there is some sort of monetary value in it as the most important aspect of having them.  I am a preserver and it irks me to no end when things sit around on dusty shelves and get forgotten about.  There are those with skills to digitize, restore and preserve these lost treasures of the past eras.  I also have a very large spreadsheet I maintain with information on all known radio shows.  It is far from complete but it is where I dump facts on the shows as I learn them.  I am working now on a complete listing of all FM&M shows so folks can check of what they have and need and have something to refer to as needed. 

Rick

Labor ipse voluptas


On Monday, September 27, 2021, 06:41:26 PM CDT, Scott Galley via groups.io <scottgalley@...> wrote:


This will be the last I will say on this subject. If we look at my initial post, all I was doing (which I regret now, and find a trifle embarrassing) was to showcase my enthusiasm to this group and to say that I enjoyed what little I've heard of South African radio, and was wondering if there was a book on the subject. That was all. I wasn't trying to steal someone's research, incorrectly date files, or post stuff to some sort of online site. Or charge money for anything. Quite the contrary. I was willing to spend money if there was a good book on the subject, just as I've done on dozens of other books on the subject of golden age radio broadcasters from all over the world. Seems pretty harmless to me to just simply ask if there's a book out there somewhere.

Further to that, I've enjoyed your site Ian, and have posted a couple of comments there over the years thanking you for expanding my knowledge of Australian radio. I don't understand the difference. Is South Africa's radio heritage the domain of a few? I seriously doubt that the people involved in the creation of that content up until 1985 would like to know that someone thinks that the shows are their private pleasure garden. But maybe I'm wrong.

Regardless, I did not intend to start a flame war of any sort. My initial post was just an innocent burst of enthusiasm. I will not make that mistake again, and will go back to just being a reader of posts. Fewer headaches.


Re: Springbok Radio

Ian Grieve
 

Thank you Ryan.  I have no idea what the copyright situation in S.A. is apart from the Australian Series they broadcast, I just know the reasons why there isn't greater cooperation.  It doesn't effect me, I have access anyway.

It was nothing against Chris, I just know that 1,000 people might read, think it is a great idea and a fair percentage then act like locusts.

I have been abused for not making Australian shows more accessible on my site and not opening my collection more.  You just get sick of explaining the situation over and over again.  Defending a copyright law I don't believe in but can't pretend doesn't exist.  I understand the attitude of the S.A. contact, but it doesn't mean I agree.  The fact that I am here and I document and have a website, should show that I don't.  I try to cooperate wherever possible.

Ian

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ryan Ellett via groups.io" <oldradiotimes@...>
Sent: 28/09/2021 11:42:25 AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Springbok Radio

I think it's important to remind everyone that Ian was not stating his opinion of the matter, but relating his knowledge of and experience with the lead South African Springbok researchers. I want to make sure it doesn't get lost in all the responses that Ian's point (as I read it) was to let everyone know why there is not a published work on South African radio at this point, which was the question that started this thread if I recall. Let's not argue with Ian about someone else's beliefs and opinions.
Ryan


Re: Audacity alternatives

Wild West Designs
 

 
I wouldn't based on their github page.  Last commit was in 2019.  Now, of course, I think we have all used programs that have gone "stale" with regard to active development, but with something like this, I would try to go with a "fresher" fork of Audacity, if still wanting to go with Audacity as a base.
 
---

Evan West



On 2021-09-27 07:42 PM, Bill Clough via groups.io wrote:

Has anyone tried DarkAudacity?
http://www.darkaudacity.com/download.html


On 9/25/2021 12:17 PM, Wild West Designs wrote:
I found another alternative to Audacity, but this one is quite a bit different.

It is called Bespoke.  It is talked about more for music (but most DAWs are), I have just started to mess around with it yesterday.  It is a different paradigm to Audacity (and the other more "mature" audio programs).  It is node based more then it is timeline based (that my be a deal breaker for some, I have gotten used to it, because Blender uses it lot like that as well, nodes for just about everything).

It is also openGL, meaning it uses an immediate mode gui versus the traditional retained mode.  While it will look the same on all platforms, it won't look native to any one of them.  While that doesn't bother me again (I actually use SDL and Raylib for my games and programs which makes use of openGL), it is something worth mentioning.

It does allow for VST plugins, I don't know if it's specific to any one platform or if it's for all.  For instance, with Ardour it appears to only able to host VST plugins on the Windows version.

While I do enjoy Ardour as an alternative to Audacity (Ardour is a fully featured DAW unlike Audacity), unfortunately, it uses the GTK toolkit (as does Mint and even Audacity as it uses wxWidgets, which is based off GTK) and apparently that project has gotten under fire lately (for those that use Linux, if you have heard of Solus, they are actually switching away from it to another toolkit for their flagship Budgie addition and deprecating their Gnome edition with the next release).  I have to wonder what is going to happen there.  Maybe nothing, but I am hedging my bets.

Anyway, I thought I would mention it as another potential tool to use.  It is very, very different.  Just keep that in mind if want to try it out.


Re: Springbok Radio

Ryan Ellett
 

I think it's important to remind everyone that Ian was not stating his opinion of the matter, but relating his knowledge of and experience with the lead South African Springbok researchers. I want to make sure it doesn't get lost in all the responses that Ian's point (as I read it) was to let everyone know why there is not a published work on South African radio at this point, which was the question that started this thread if I recall. Let's not argue with Ian about someone else's beliefs and opinions.
Ryan


Re: Springbok Radio

Richard Davenport
 

I fail to see what the big deal is about folks asking questions about SA radio.  I have found that some folks or institutions seem to really pucker up when it comings to sharing information or files.  I also have a passion for movie serials and have built a very comprehensive spreadsheet about what I believe to be every single one ever released.  I have a pretty decent collection of digital versions of the chapters of the various serials.  I will not name names but those of us here who appreciate a good serial probably know of to whom I refer.  It does the world no good if things are stuck in a dark warehouse on a shelf when the holder thinks there is some sort of monetary value in it as the most important aspect of having them.  I am a preserver and it irks me to no end when things sit around on dusty shelves and get forgotten about.  There are those with skills to digitize, restore and preserve these lost treasures of the past eras.  I also have a very large spreadsheet I maintain with information on all known radio shows.  It is far from complete but it is where I dump facts on the shows as I learn them.  I am working now on a complete listing of all FM&M shows so folks can check of what they have and need and have something to refer to as needed. 

Rick

Labor ipse voluptas


On Monday, September 27, 2021, 06:41:26 PM CDT, Scott Galley via groups.io <scottgalley@...> wrote:


This will be the last I will say on this subject. If we look at my initial post, all I was doing (which I regret now, and find a trifle embarrassing) was to showcase my enthusiasm to this group and to say that I enjoyed what little I've heard of South African radio, and was wondering if there was a book on the subject. That was all. I wasn't trying to steal someone's research, incorrectly date files, or post stuff to some sort of online site. Or charge money for anything. Quite the contrary. I was willing to spend money if there was a good book on the subject, just as I've done on dozens of other books on the subject of golden age radio broadcasters from all over the world. Seems pretty harmless to me to just simply ask if there's a book out there somewhere.

Further to that, I've enjoyed your site Ian, and have posted a couple of comments there over the years thanking you for expanding my knowledge of Australian radio. I don't understand the difference. Is South Africa's radio heritage the domain of a few? I seriously doubt that the people involved in the creation of that content up until 1985 would like to know that someone thinks that the shows are their private pleasure garden. But maybe I'm wrong.

Regardless, I did not intend to start a flame war of any sort. My initial post was just an innocent burst of enthusiasm. I will not make that mistake again, and will go back to just being a reader of posts. Fewer headaches.


Re: Audacity alternatives

Bill Clough
 

Has anyone tried DarkAudacity?
http://www.darkaudacity.com/download.html


On 9/25/2021 12:17 PM, Wild West Designs wrote:
I found another alternative to Audacity, but this one is quite a bit different.

It is called Bespoke.  It is talked about more for music (but most DAWs are), I have just started to mess around with it yesterday.  It is a different paradigm to Audacity (and the other more "mature" audio programs).  It is node based more then it is timeline based (that my be a deal breaker for some, I have gotten used to it, because Blender uses it lot like that as well, nodes for just about everything).

It is also openGL, meaning it uses an immediate mode gui versus the traditional retained mode.  While it will look the same on all platforms, it won't look native to any one of them.  While that doesn't bother me again (I actually use SDL and Raylib for my games and programs which makes use of openGL), it is something worth mentioning.

It does allow for VST plugins, I don't know if it's specific to any one platform or if it's for all.  For instance, with Ardour it appears to only able to host VST plugins on the Windows version.

While I do enjoy Ardour as an alternative to Audacity (Ardour is a fully featured DAW unlike Audacity), unfortunately, it uses the GTK toolkit (as does Mint and even Audacity as it uses wxWidgets, which is based off GTK) and apparently that project has gotten under fire lately (for those that use Linux, if you have heard of Solus, they are actually switching away from it to another toolkit for their flagship Budgie addition and deprecating their Gnome edition with the next release).  I have to wonder what is going to happen there.  Maybe nothing, but I am hedging my bets.

Anyway, I thought I would mention it as another potential tool to use.  It is very, very different.  Just keep that in mind if want to try it out.


Re: Springbok Radio

Scott Galley
 

This will be the last I will say on this subject. If we look at my initial post, all I was doing (which I regret now, and find a trifle embarrassing) was to showcase my enthusiasm to this group and to say that I enjoyed what little I've heard of South African radio, and was wondering if there was a book on the subject. That was all. I wasn't trying to steal someone's research, incorrectly date files, or post stuff to some sort of online site. Or charge money for anything. Quite the contrary. I was willing to spend money if there was a good book on the subject, just as I've done on dozens of other books on the subject of golden age radio broadcasters from all over the world. Seems pretty harmless to me to just simply ask if there's a book out there somewhere.

Further to that, I've enjoyed your site Ian, and have posted a couple of comments there over the years thanking you for expanding my knowledge of Australian radio. I don't understand the difference. Is South Africa's radio heritage the domain of a few? I seriously doubt that the people involved in the creation of that content up until 1985 would like to know that someone thinks that the shows are their private pleasure garden. But maybe I'm wrong.

Regardless, I did not intend to start a flame war of any sort. My initial post was just an innocent burst of enthusiasm. I will not make that mistake again, and will go back to just being a reader of posts. Fewer headaches.


Re: Springbok Radio

Ian Grieve
 

Sorry I spoke up now.

Trying not to let mistakes happen again, its called the benefit of experience.  I know the background, you didn't.  The world is your oyster, its not as though history will ever repeat.

Ian

------ Original Message ------
From: "John" <johnk5mo@...>
Sent: 28/09/2021 6:47:22 AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Springbok Radio

"What an odd response. Curiosity about another’s culture does not imply a desire to dominate it. I was just saying that I enjoyed what I’ve heard and was interested in finding out more. In the same way that I’m interested in broadcasting from Great Britain, Australia, Canada, or for that matter, the US, which is not my home country.
If I’ve stepped on some sort of cultural minefield (surprisingly easy to do in today’s hypersensitive age) then it was done accidentally.
This is a reminder to me as to why I try never to participate in any online forums. You ask a simple question… "

Indeed so.  It's unfortunate that someone (anyone) believes that they have the "authentic" control of a countries  (ANY countries) vintage radio history.  I collect a particular brand of vintage handgun. There's a fellow who has collected decades worth of information on these guns, but won't share it because "It's part of a book I'm publishing".  He's been "publishing" it for 25+ yrs with no sign of anything forthcoming, and I'm pretty sure the information will go to the grave with him as he's quite elderly now.

Strange, but such are some of the characters and behaviors that inhabit all niche hobbies.

John



On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 11:17 PM Scott Galley via groups.io <scottgalley=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:
What an odd response. Curiosity about another’s culture does not imply a desire to dominate it. I was just saying that I enjoyed what I’ve heard and was interested in finding out more. In the same way that I’m interested in broadcasting from Great Britain, Australia, Canada, or for that matter, the US, which is not my home country.

If I’ve stepped on some sort of cultural minefield (surprisingly easy to do in today’s hypersensitive age) then it was done accidentally.

This is a reminder to me as to why I try never to participate in any online forums. You ask a simple question… 


Re: Springbok Radio

John K5MO
 

"What an odd response. Curiosity about another’s culture does not imply a desire to dominate it. I was just saying that I enjoyed what I’ve heard and was interested in finding out more. In the same way that I’m interested in broadcasting from Great Britain, Australia, Canada, or for that matter, the US, which is not my home country.
If I’ve stepped on some sort of cultural minefield (surprisingly easy to do in today’s hypersensitive age) then it was done accidentally.
This is a reminder to me as to why I try never to participate in any online forums. You ask a simple question… "

Indeed so.  It's unfortunate that someone (anyone) believes that they have the "authentic" control of a countries  (ANY countries) vintage radio history.  I collect a particular brand of vintage handgun. There's a fellow who has collected decades worth of information on these guns, but won't share it because "It's part of a book I'm publishing".  He's been "publishing" it for 25+ yrs with no sign of anything forthcoming, and I'm pretty sure the information will go to the grave with him as he's quite elderly now.

Strange, but such are some of the characters and behaviors that inhabit all niche hobbies.

John



On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 11:17 PM Scott Galley via groups.io <scottgalley=mac.com@groups.io> wrote:
What an odd response. Curiosity about another’s culture does not imply a desire to dominate it. I was just saying that I enjoyed what I’ve heard and was interested in finding out more. In the same way that I’m interested in broadcasting from Great Britain, Australia, Canada, or for that matter, the US, which is not my home country.

If I’ve stepped on some sort of cultural minefield (surprisingly easy to do in today’s hypersensitive age) then it was done accidentally.

This is a reminder to me as to why I try never to participate in any online forums. You ask a simple question… 


Re: Springbok Radio

Scott
 

I know this is tangentially related but I've got a fair amount of SA/Springbok content here: https://radio.dieselpunkindustries.com/. All the South African links should have a "(SA)" at the end of the link title.

- 33 Half Moon Street
- The Avengers
- Castle Playhouse
- Cavalcade of King
- The Creaking Door
- General Motors on Safari
- High Adventure
- Higher They Fly
- Jet Jungle
- John Steele Adventurer 
- Medical File
- Night Surgeon
- SF-68
- Shell Theater of the Air
- Sounds of Darkness
- Squad Cars
- Stories of Sherlock Holmes
- Walk Softly Peter Troy


Re: New Episodes of Fibber McGee and Molly Available

Larry Maupin
 

Hi Blayne,

This morning I closed the window for members of the OTRR groups to join the Radio Enthusiasts of Puget Sound and be able to receive the 11 episodes of Fibber McGee and Molly as well as other benefits of joining the group.

I will make an exception for you because your message came in while I was sending one out to all the members who have requested the shows so far.

If you wish to join REPS, just type "Radio Enthusiasts of Puget Sound" into your browser, then click on the link that takes you to the website, then hover on "Get Involved" at the top of the screen, then click on "Join REPS" from the menu that drops down and you will be taken to the page where you can make payment using either PayPal or a credit card.

After doing that please forward the message that appears in your Inbox with the receipt conforming your payment and I will forward it to the group's treasurer so she can officially enroll you, and just before I do that I will send you the 11 episodes of Fibber McGee you have requested.

Best regards,

Larry Maupin

-----------------------------------------

From: "Blayne Mayfield via groups.io"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Monday September 27 2021 7:29:40AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] New Episodes of Fibber McGee and Molly Available

Larry,

I would like to receive a copy of the Fibber & Molly Programs.  Thank you!
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Blayne Mayfield

--
Larry Maupin


Re: New Episodes of Fibber McGee and Molly Available

Blayne Mayfield
 

Larry,

I would like to receive a copy of the Fibber & Molly Programs.  Thank you!
----
Blayne Mayfield


Re: Springbok Radio

Joe Webb
 

There is one very curious character in South African radio who deserves some serious academic study. Michael McCabe was one of radio's most prolific writers and performers in the entire worldwide medium. He wrote most of the scripts for Suspense (they used the show name, but all of the scripts were original; McCabe's scripts were in their first Suspense series), SF68 (their sci-fi program), Beyond Midnight, The Avengers, and others. There is very little about him online. Here's one of the pages https://www.declassified.hiddentigerbooks.co.uk/radio_biogs_michael_mccabe.htm -- most all of the pages have the same limited information.

You can stream many of the programs today https://www.radio-south-africa.co.za/springbok-radio



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Re: Springbok Radio

Ian Grieve
 

Chris, The guy who is doing it is very sensitive on the subject because he feels put out by all the requests he gets for mp3 copies and all the wrong information put out by U.S. researchers.  He is very very sensitive on the subject ever since Pumamouse was raiding his recordings 20 years ago and sharing the mp3s to everyone.

I have tried to get him to join this group several times over the years, but he simply doesn't want to because he has had too many negative experiences.

He only trusts a handfull of people at this stage.  He trusts me because we have traded information regarding the Australian shows broadcast in South Africa and because of the Australian broadcasters that worked there.  I suppose I have never asked for a S.A. show either in the 20+ years we have been conversing and that helps.

It is not to say that YOU personally want to dominate his culture, just that the hundreds before you have tried.

I know how much I hate it when someone from another country tries to document Australian OTR and gets it all ballsed up (technical term).  I have spent years trying to undo incorrect information and have learnt that once it is out there, it is a waste of time trying to correct it.  I logged a couple of U.S. series early in my hobby and then backed away, because the culture isn't mine and I had no right.

Instead I learnt who to pass the recordings or information to, in order to assist them in that work.  I have in fact passed the S.A. researcher details to a member here that I trust and discussed the issue with both parties, so the information isn't lost with me.

So it isn't really a simply question, nor is it a simple answer.  Too much history.  One day if people leave him alone, he may join the group, but not while the group is collecting S.A. shows and making up S.A. logs when there is so much U.S material yet to be logged and documented etc.

Ian




------ Original Message ------
From: "Scott Galley via groups.io" <scottgalley@...>
Sent: 27/09/2021 1:17:38 PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Springbok Radio

What an odd response. Curiosity about another’s culture does not imply a desire to dominate it. I was just saying that I enjoyed what I’ve heard and was interested in finding out more. In the same way that I’m interested in broadcasting from Great Britain, Australia, Canada, or for that matter, the US, which is not my home country.

If I’ve stepped on some sort of cultural minefield (surprisingly easy to do in today’s hypersensitive age) then it was done accidentally.

This is a reminder to me as to why I try never to participate in any online forums. You ask a simple question… 


Re: Springbok Radio

Scott Galley
 

What an odd response. Curiosity about another’s culture does not imply a desire to dominate it. I was just saying that I enjoyed what I’ve heard and was interested in finding out more. In the same way that I’m interested in broadcasting from Great Britain, Australia, Canada, or for that matter, the US, which is not my home country.

If I’ve stepped on some sort of cultural minefield (surprisingly easy to do in today’s hypersensitive age) then it was done accidentally.

This is a reminder to me as to why I try never to participate in any online forums. You ask a simple question… 


Re: New Episodes of Fibber McGee and Molly Available

Bill Clough
 

I would like to get on the FM&M list.

On 9/25/2021 2:41 PM, Larry Maupin wrote:
I am a member of this group, and also have recently become the online librarian of the Radio Enthusiasts of Puget Sound.  A couple of weeks ago 11 new episodes of Fibber McGee and Molly were uploaded to the library's Dropbox account.  I did find one in the OTRR Library with the same title but a different date.  All of them are from 1935, the first year of the program.  Their sound quality is very good.

If you are a fan of the show I will be happy to send all of them to you.  All you need to do is send me an email and write something simple like "I would like to have them" and I will get them to you to you within one day.  Perhaps I don't need to say it, but there is no charge for them.

Larry Maupin

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Larry Maupin


Re: Springbok Radio

Ian Grieve
 

Scott, they are documenting their own OTR and want to be left to do that themselves.  Not all their OTR is in English, much was in Africaans.

They do have people documenting and they know their OTR heritage best. 

You don't hear about it in the U.S. and that is deliberate.

It is THEIR heritage.

Ian





-------- Original message --------
From: "Scott Galley via groups.io" <scottgalley@...>
Date: 25/9/21 11:06 pm (GMT+10:00)
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Springbok Radio

All this talk of Medical FIle and Address Unknown brings up an interesting topic, namely South African radio. To my knowledge, there is no book or website dealing exclusively with the history and shows that came out of South Africa during its long history of dramatic radio. I know of 'Taxi', 'General Motors on Safari', 'The Avengers', etc; but does anyone know of a good source for information dealing with Springbok Radio and South African dramatic radio culture in general? I find these more 'exotic' (at least to North American ears) shows and broadcasters an endless source of fascination.

Scott


Re: New Episodes of Fibber McGee and Molly Available

Jeffrey Keil
 

Larry,

I'm interested in the programs too.

keilj_33@...

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