Date   

Re: Additions to magazine library

Larry Maupin
 

Thank you Ryan.  These will be very interesting to look through.  Also, you must be close to sending out a link to the March/April issue of The Old Radio Times.  I expect to read every word of it.

Larry

-----------------------------------------

From: "Ryan Ellett via groups.io"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Saturday April 18 2020 11:03:47AM
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Additions to magazine library

[Edited Message Follows]

More magazines (provided by Martin Grams) have been uploaded to our magazine library (by Paul Kornman). Thanks to both! Take a look at issues of National Radio Institute, National Radio News, and Town Hall Meeting of the Air. Enjoy!

--
Larry Maupin


Additions to magazine library

Ryan Ellett
 
Edited

More magazines (provided by Martin Grams) have been uploaded to our magazine library (by Paul Kornman). Thanks to both! Take a look at issues of National Radio Institute, National Radio News, and Town Hall Meeting of the Air. Enjoy!


Re: One More Intro

Larry Maupin
 

Hi Barbara,

That is definitely the same episode of The Brighter Day I have in mind.  Reel 763 is entitled "SPERDVAC OTR SPECIAL" and is listed on page 109 of the old General Library Catalog that I still have, but The Brighter Day episode is not listed in the entry.  I made the discovery that that episode of The Brighter Day is in fact on Reel 763 while listening to the cassette tapes from that reel which I borrowed from the library.  It is on the same cassette with the Fred Waring program and an episode of Just Plain Bill.  No other shows are on that cassette.

It is probably the case that you obtained it from Joe Crawford because if you did not know it is on Reel 763 then you, like I, might never been aware of its very existence unless you had listened to every program on the reel and discovered it there. 

I will conclude by sharing the notes I took on the episode when I first heard it many years ago. "Delightful.  Patsy interprets the night sounds of frogs and insects as 'all mating calls'.  Mention is made of bread, meat, vegetables and ice cream.  A prom ticket cost $2.75.  Grayling is on a bowling team."  And I remember Otis J. Hopkins too.

You are a very pleasant correspondent, and I hope to hear from you again as frequently as you care to write.  I will gladly keep up my end. 

Best wishes,

Larry

-----------------------------------------

From: "B. J. Watkins"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Friday April 17 2020 7:28:06PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

Hi Larry,

Thanks for your response. That is not the reel I am thinking of. So that mystery will continue for a while. I checked my card catalog for my reel collection and found that one of my The Brighter Day programs was on the same reel as that Fred Waring program listed. I logged that show as Patsy and Elizabeth talk of springtime and Otis J. Hopkins on porch. If that's the same show you have I suspect I got it in trade from Joe Crawford who probably produced that KLON show. I have no idea whatever happened to the reel.

Thanks, that was fun reminiscing.

Barbara


From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> on behalf of Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:45 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro
 
Hi Barbara,

I think your message must have been prompted by the article I wrote specifically for "Radiogram" and submitted to the editor earlier this week.

So here is the background.  About the year 2005 I ran across Reel 763 on page 109 of the General Catalog.  I borrowed the tapes listed on that reel and dubbed them before returning them to the library.  Everything listed on the reel was on the tapes as well as an uncataloged episode of "The Brighter Day."  The source of this reel was a July 4, 1980 broadcast on KLON-FM in Long Beach, California.  There are some great introductions to the shows, and the sound quality is outstanding.  As I recall, the first episode aired was the one of "Just Plain Bill" listed in the catalog, which began with a properly rousing rendition of "Polly-Wolly Doodle" on the harmonica.

As to your question about the contents of the the reel, here is the listing on page 109 of the catalog: Side 1: JUST PLAIN BILL, THE FRED WARING SHOW, THE JACK BERCH SHOW, AGAINST THE STORM; Side 2: THE GUIDING LIGHT, MIDSTREAM, FRONT PAGE DRAMA, MOON DREAMS, FLASH GORDON and SHADOW OF FU MANCHU.

I hope this helps, and that it answers your question fully.  If you need any additional information or clarification, please don't hesitate to write me again.  I always answer messages promptly and will always be glad to hear from you.

Best wishes,
Larry   



-----------------------------------------

From: "B. J. Watkins"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Friday April 17 2020 12:38:11PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

Hi Larry,

I remember that reel you are talking about. I was librarian for some of the open reel, cassette and CD libraries for SPERDVAC for over 25 years.. I know I wrote the missing information in my catalog and sent the info to the person who was in charge of updating and corrections. I assumed that later versions of the catalog would have all the shows listed. I can't remember if it was in the General Library or the Hollywood Museum series. All my old catalogs are inaccessible at the moment. I vaguely recall it was a 60 minute cassette with only two shows listed. That would mean the Hollywood Museum series. I copied all the shows into my open reel collection. Would you mind telling me what the shows were so I can look them up?

Thanks,
Barbara


From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> on behalf of Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 7:20 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro
 
Good morning Gary,

I hope you are getting through the crisis well and enjoying daily life despite so many places of business and entertainment being closed.  My daughter did tell me yesterday that it looks as if the major league baseball season may soon start, with all the games being played in Arizona.  It would be great to have baseball on television again.

I am writing to update our previous correspondence and to ask your advice on a matter.  After you told me about "Radiogram" I composed an article that was slightly longer than the one I had envisioned because I discovered that on one particular reel in the SPERDVAC General Library there are four different old-time radio soap opera episodes that are not in the OTRR Library collection, one of which I think has never been circulated because it is not even listed in the catalog as being on that reel. 

Earlier this week I submitted the article to Patrick Luciano using the email address Radiogram@....  I have not yet received a reply acknowledging receipt of the submission, which concerns me because most people, as I always do, respond promptly to email messages.

If Patrick is the person you refer to as your good friend and someone who has published quite a few of your notes and articles in "Radiogram", then you know him well enough to advise me as to how to proceed.  I have had a number of thoughts, the foremost being that he looked at the article and rejected it out of hand and did not think it was worth even a reply.  Another is that perhaps he only gets around to reading submissions on weekends and thus has not yet seen it.  One editor I submitted a piece to went ten days without replying to my message.  Finally, exasperated, I wrote him and asked if he  was in a coma.  He replied testily that he has accepted the article, that it is slated for publication at a later date, and that he doesn't think it necessary to jump right on every message he receives and respond immediately.  He said he sometimes goes three days without reading his emails!

I do hope this message is amusing you, but I will finally get to the point.  Do you have any advice for me as to how to proceed?  I am thinking that if I don't hear back from Patrick by Monday, he probably has no interest in what I submitted and I will just find somewhere else to share the information contained in it.  Do you think I should write him again if he has not replied by tomorrow, or just let the matter go?

I will abide by whatever advice you give me if you reply to this message.  Also, please let me know if Patrick is the current editor and whether I did use the correct email address for my submission.

I hope to hear back from you today if it is convenient for you to reply.

Best wishes,
Larry Maupin 
  

-----------------------------------------

From: "Gary Coville"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Monday April 6 2020 12:58:28AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

Larry,

By all means submit what you may have.  You don't need to be  a member of SPERDVAC to submit something for publication.  The email address is Radiogram@...

Regards,
Gary Coville

On 4/5/20 12:15 PM, Larry Maupin wrote:
Hello Gary.  This is a great post.  I think you uploaded some episodes of shows to the Purchasing Group that I have listened to and enjoyed, so thank you for that.

It is impressive that you are a published author and the best friend of "Radiogram's" editor.  I once belonged to SPERDVAC and have considered joining again.  I have a few short pieces that I might submit to him.  One is about an episode of a show that nobody knows about because it is not listed in any of the SPERDVAC library catalogs.  It is not even in the OTRR Library collection, so he might enjoy my identifying it and sending him a short summary of it.  This is a good example of why I read everybody's posts.

Best wishes,

Larry Maupin

-----------------------------------------

From: "Gary Coville"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Sunday April 5 2020 2:15:06PM
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

I’ll turn 71 in a couple of months and confess that my interest in radio carries all the way back to my childhood in the 1950s.  Hardly anything was worse for a kid back then than a night without television.  A tube would burn out and suddenly darkness descended upon the world while we awaited the arrival of the TV repairman.  One night, after this tragedy struck, my mother introduced me to “radio without pictures.”  I still remember the two shows I listened to that fateful evening: Gang Busters and My Little Margie.  My grandparents lived just a block away and it was another ten years or so before they got their first TV set and so I was exposed to radio in their house.  I remember my grandmother liked her soaps; Stella Dallas was one of her favorites.  I specifically recall my grandfather listening to The Lone Ranger at full volume because he was quite hard of hearing.  I couldn’t figure out at the time why the Lone Ranger’s voice sounded so different from my television version.  I decided the radio must somehow be distorting the Ranger’s voice.  Of course, radio changed radically not too long after my introduction to real radio and such programming virtually disappeared.

 

I’ve never lost my fascination with either OTR or OTTV.  While I was in college I purchased my first reel to reel recorder and began acquiring reel to reel tapes of the great radio shows.  I began reading about and researching the history of both radio and television.  Later I started writing about my favorite two subjects.  During the ensuing years, I’ve co-authored three books and a number of articles incorporating some of what I’ve learned.  The editor of SPERDVAC’s Radiogram is my oldest and closest friend and usually desperate for material.  So I usually have an outlet for my ramblings.  I would encourage anyone in the group with the urge to write about some aspect of radio to give it a go.  No better time than right now while we are all so restricted in our movements. 

 

Stay safe, everyone.

 

Gary Coville


--
Larry Maupin


--
Larry Maupin

--
Larry Maupin

--
Larry Maupin


Re: One More Intro

B. J. Watkins
 

Hi Larry,

Thanks for your response. That is not the reel I am thinking of. So that mystery will continue for a while. I checked my card catalog for my reel collection and found that one of my The Brighter Day programs was on the same reel as that Fred Waring program listed. I logged that show as Patsy and Elizabeth talk of springtime and Otis J. Hopkins on porch. If that's the same show you have I suspect I got it in trade from Joe Crawford who probably produced that KLON show. I have no idea whatever happened to the reel.

Thanks, that was fun reminiscing.

Barbara


From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> on behalf of Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:45 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro
 
Hi Barbara,

I think your message must have been prompted by the article I wrote specifically for "Radiogram" and submitted to the editor earlier this week.

So here is the background.  About the year 2005 I ran across Reel 763 on page 109 of the General Catalog.  I borrowed the tapes listed on that reel and dubbed them before returning them to the library.  Everything listed on the reel was on the tapes as well as an uncataloged episode of "The Brighter Day."  The source of this reel was a July 4, 1980 broadcast on KLON-FM in Long Beach, California.  There are some great introductions to the shows, and the sound quality is outstanding.  As I recall, the first episode aired was the one of "Just Plain Bill" listed in the catalog, which began with a properly rousing rendition of "Polly-Wolly Doodle" on the harmonica.

As to your question about the contents of the the reel, here is the listing on page 109 of the catalog: Side 1: JUST PLAIN BILL, THE FRED WARING SHOW, THE JACK BERCH SHOW, AGAINST THE STORM; Side 2: THE GUIDING LIGHT, MIDSTREAM, FRONT PAGE DRAMA, MOON DREAMS, FLASH GORDON and SHADOW OF FU MANCHU.

I hope this helps, and that it answers your question fully.  If you need any additional information or clarification, please don't hesitate to write me again.  I always answer messages promptly and will always be glad to hear from you.

Best wishes,
Larry   



-----------------------------------------

From: "B. J. Watkins"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Friday April 17 2020 12:38:11PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

Hi Larry,

I remember that reel you are talking about. I was librarian for some of the open reel, cassette and CD libraries for SPERDVAC for over 25 years.. I know I wrote the missing information in my catalog and sent the info to the person who was in charge of updating and corrections. I assumed that later versions of the catalog would have all the shows listed. I can't remember if it was in the General Library or the Hollywood Museum series. All my old catalogs are inaccessible at the moment. I vaguely recall it was a 60 minute cassette with only two shows listed. That would mean the Hollywood Museum series. I copied all the shows into my open reel collection. Would you mind telling me what the shows were so I can look them up?

Thanks,
Barbara


From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> on behalf of Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 7:20 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro
 
Good morning Gary,

I hope you are getting through the crisis well and enjoying daily life despite so many places of business and entertainment being closed.  My daughter did tell me yesterday that it looks as if the major league baseball season may soon start, with all the games being played in Arizona.  It would be great to have baseball on television again.

I am writing to update our previous correspondence and to ask your advice on a matter.  After you told me about "Radiogram" I composed an article that was slightly longer than the one I had envisioned because I discovered that on one particular reel in the SPERDVAC General Library there are four different old-time radio soap opera episodes that are not in the OTRR Library collection, one of which I think has never been circulated because it is not even listed in the catalog as being on that reel. 

Earlier this week I submitted the article to Patrick Luciano using the email address Radiogram@....  I have not yet received a reply acknowledging receipt of the submission, which concerns me because most people, as I always do, respond promptly to email messages.

If Patrick is the person you refer to as your good friend and someone who has published quite a few of your notes and articles in "Radiogram", then you know him well enough to advise me as to how to proceed.  I have had a number of thoughts, the foremost being that he looked at the article and rejected it out of hand and did not think it was worth even a reply.  Another is that perhaps he only gets around to reading submissions on weekends and thus has not yet seen it.  One editor I submitted a piece to went ten days without replying to my message.  Finally, exasperated, I wrote him and asked if he  was in a coma.  He replied testily that he has accepted the article, that it is slated for publication at a later date, and that he doesn't think it necessary to jump right on every message he receives and respond immediately.  He said he sometimes goes three days without reading his emails!

I do hope this message is amusing you, but I will finally get to the point.  Do you have any advice for me as to how to proceed?  I am thinking that if I don't hear back from Patrick by Monday, he probably has no interest in what I submitted and I will just find somewhere else to share the information contained in it.  Do you think I should write him again if he has not replied by tomorrow, or just let the matter go?

I will abide by whatever advice you give me if you reply to this message.  Also, please let me know if Patrick is the current editor and whether I did use the correct email address for my submission.

I hope to hear back from you today if it is convenient for you to reply.

Best wishes,
Larry Maupin 
  

-----------------------------------------

From: "Gary Coville"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Monday April 6 2020 12:58:28AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

Larry,

By all means submit what you may have.  You don't need to be  a member of SPERDVAC to submit something for publication.  The email address is Radiogram@...

Regards,
Gary Coville

On 4/5/20 12:15 PM, Larry Maupin wrote:
Hello Gary.  This is a great post.  I think you uploaded some episodes of shows to the Purchasing Group that I have listened to and enjoyed, so thank you for that.

It is impressive that you are a published author and the best friend of "Radiogram's" editor.  I once belonged to SPERDVAC and have considered joining again.  I have a few short pieces that I might submit to him.  One is about an episode of a show that nobody knows about because it is not listed in any of the SPERDVAC library catalogs.  It is not even in the OTRR Library collection, so he might enjoy my identifying it and sending him a short summary of it.  This is a good example of why I read everybody's posts.

Best wishes,

Larry Maupin

-----------------------------------------

From: "Gary Coville"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Sunday April 5 2020 2:15:06PM
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

I’ll turn 71 in a couple of months and confess that my interest in radio carries all the way back to my childhood in the 1950s.  Hardly anything was worse for a kid back then than a night without television.  A tube would burn out and suddenly darkness descended upon the world while we awaited the arrival of the TV repairman.  One night, after this tragedy struck, my mother introduced me to “radio without pictures.”  I still remember the two shows I listened to that fateful evening: Gang Busters and My Little Margie.  My grandparents lived just a block away and it was another ten years or so before they got their first TV set and so I was exposed to radio in their house.  I remember my grandmother liked her soaps; Stella Dallas was one of her favorites.  I specifically recall my grandfather listening to The Lone Ranger at full volume because he was quite hard of hearing.  I couldn’t figure out at the time why the Lone Ranger’s voice sounded so different from my television version.  I decided the radio must somehow be distorting the Ranger’s voice.  Of course, radio changed radically not too long after my introduction to real radio and such programming virtually disappeared.

 

I’ve never lost my fascination with either OTR or OTTV.  While I was in college I purchased my first reel to reel recorder and began acquiring reel to reel tapes of the great radio shows.  I began reading about and researching the history of both radio and television.  Later I started writing about my favorite two subjects.  During the ensuing years, I’ve co-authored three books and a number of articles incorporating some of what I’ve learned.  The editor of SPERDVAC’s Radiogram is my oldest and closest friend and usually desperate for material.  So I usually have an outlet for my ramblings.  I would encourage anyone in the group with the urge to write about some aspect of radio to give it a go.  No better time than right now while we are all so restricted in our movements. 

 

Stay safe, everyone.

 

Gary Coville


--
Larry Maupin


--
Larry Maupin

--
Larry Maupin


Re: One More Intro

Larry Maupin
 

Hi Barbara,

I think your message must have been prompted by the article I wrote specifically for "Radiogram" and submitted to the editor earlier this week.

So here is the background.  About the year 2005 I ran across Reel 763 on page 109 of the General Catalog.  I borrowed the tapes listed on that reel and dubbed them before returning them to the library.  Everything listed on the reel was on the tapes as well as an uncataloged episode of "The Brighter Day."  The source of this reel was a July 4, 1980 broadcast on KLON-FM in Long Beach, California.  There are some great introductions to the shows, and the sound quality is outstanding.  As I recall, the first episode aired was the one of "Just Plain Bill" listed in the catalog, which began with a properly rousing rendition of "Polly-Wolly Doodle" on the harmonica.

As to your question about the contents of the the reel, here is the listing on page 109 of the catalog: Side 1: JUST PLAIN BILL, THE FRED WARING SHOW, THE JACK BERCH SHOW, AGAINST THE STORM; Side 2: THE GUIDING LIGHT, MIDSTREAM, FRONT PAGE DRAMA, MOON DREAMS, FLASH GORDON and SHADOW OF FU MANCHU.

I hope this helps, and that it answers your question fully.  If you need any additional information or clarification, please don't hesitate to write me again.  I always answer messages promptly and will always be glad to hear from you.

Best wishes,
Larry   



-----------------------------------------

From: "B. J. Watkins"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Friday April 17 2020 12:38:11PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

Hi Larry,

I remember that reel you are talking about. I was librarian for some of the open reel, cassette and CD libraries for SPERDVAC for over 25 years.. I know I wrote the missing information in my catalog and sent the info to the person who was in charge of updating and corrections. I assumed that later versions of the catalog would have all the shows listed. I can't remember if it was in the General Library or the Hollywood Museum series. All my old catalogs are inaccessible at the moment. I vaguely recall it was a 60 minute cassette with only two shows listed. That would mean the Hollywood Museum series. I copied all the shows into my open reel collection. Would you mind telling me what the shows were so I can look them up?

Thanks,
Barbara


From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> on behalf of Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 7:20 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro
 
Good morning Gary,

I hope you are getting through the crisis well and enjoying daily life despite so many places of business and entertainment being closed.  My daughter did tell me yesterday that it looks as if the major league baseball season may soon start, with all the games being played in Arizona.  It would be great to have baseball on television again.

I am writing to update our previous correspondence and to ask your advice on a matter.  After you told me about "Radiogram" I composed an article that was slightly longer than the one I had envisioned because I discovered that on one particular reel in the SPERDVAC General Library there are four different old-time radio soap opera episodes that are not in the OTRR Library collection, one of which I think has never been circulated because it is not even listed in the catalog as being on that reel. 

Earlier this week I submitted the article to Patrick Luciano using the email address Radiogram@....  I have not yet received a reply acknowledging receipt of the submission, which concerns me because most people, as I always do, respond promptly to email messages.

If Patrick is the person you refer to as your good friend and someone who has published quite a few of your notes and articles in "Radiogram", then you know him well enough to advise me as to how to proceed.  I have had a number of thoughts, the foremost being that he looked at the article and rejected it out of hand and did not think it was worth even a reply.  Another is that perhaps he only gets around to reading submissions on weekends and thus has not yet seen it.  One editor I submitted a piece to went ten days without replying to my message.  Finally, exasperated, I wrote him and asked if he  was in a coma.  He replied testily that he has accepted the article, that it is slated for publication at a later date, and that he doesn't think it necessary to jump right on every message he receives and respond immediately.  He said he sometimes goes three days without reading his emails!

I do hope this message is amusing you, but I will finally get to the point.  Do you have any advice for me as to how to proceed?  I am thinking that if I don't hear back from Patrick by Monday, he probably has no interest in what I submitted and I will just find somewhere else to share the information contained in it.  Do you think I should write him again if he has not replied by tomorrow, or just let the matter go?

I will abide by whatever advice you give me if you reply to this message.  Also, please let me know if Patrick is the current editor and whether I did use the correct email address for my submission.

I hope to hear back from you today if it is convenient for you to reply.

Best wishes,
Larry Maupin 
  

-----------------------------------------

From: "Gary Coville"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Monday April 6 2020 12:58:28AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

Larry,

By all means submit what you may have.  You don't need to be  a member of SPERDVAC to submit something for publication.  The email address is Radiogram@...

Regards,
Gary Coville

On 4/5/20 12:15 PM, Larry Maupin wrote:
Hello Gary.  This is a great post.  I think you uploaded some episodes of shows to the Purchasing Group that I have listened to and enjoyed, so thank you for that.

It is impressive that you are a published author and the best friend of "Radiogram's" editor.  I once belonged to SPERDVAC and have considered joining again.  I have a few short pieces that I might submit to him.  One is about an episode of a show that nobody knows about because it is not listed in any of the SPERDVAC library catalogs.  It is not even in the OTRR Library collection, so he might enjoy my identifying it and sending him a short summary of it.  This is a good example of why I read everybody's posts.

Best wishes,

Larry Maupin

-----------------------------------------

From: "Gary Coville"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Sunday April 5 2020 2:15:06PM
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

I’ll turn 71 in a couple of months and confess that my interest in radio carries all the way back to my childhood in the 1950s.  Hardly anything was worse for a kid back then than a night without television.  A tube would burn out and suddenly darkness descended upon the world while we awaited the arrival of the TV repairman.  One night, after this tragedy struck, my mother introduced me to “radio without pictures.”  I still remember the two shows I listened to that fateful evening: Gang Busters and My Little Margie.  My grandparents lived just a block away and it was another ten years or so before they got their first TV set and so I was exposed to radio in their house.  I remember my grandmother liked her soaps; Stella Dallas was one of her favorites.  I specifically recall my grandfather listening to The Lone Ranger at full volume because he was quite hard of hearing.  I couldn’t figure out at the time why the Lone Ranger’s voice sounded so different from my television version.  I decided the radio must somehow be distorting the Ranger’s voice.  Of course, radio changed radically not too long after my introduction to real radio and such programming virtually disappeared.

 

I’ve never lost my fascination with either OTR or OTTV.  While I was in college I purchased my first reel to reel recorder and began acquiring reel to reel tapes of the great radio shows.  I began reading about and researching the history of both radio and television.  Later I started writing about my favorite two subjects.  During the ensuing years, I’ve co-authored three books and a number of articles incorporating some of what I’ve learned.  The editor of SPERDVAC’s Radiogram is my oldest and closest friend and usually desperate for material.  So I usually have an outlet for my ramblings.  I would encourage anyone in the group with the urge to write about some aspect of radio to give it a go.  No better time than right now while we are all so restricted in our movements. 

 

Stay safe, everyone.

 

Gary Coville


--
Larry Maupin


--
Larry Maupin

--
Larry Maupin


Re: .wav vs. .flac for distros

Patrick Andre
 

Agreed – I know that MP3 is lossy, and I understand that WAV and FLAC are not lossy, and maintain the original content accurately.

 

However considering the quality of the original recordings, I am not sure what we would be losing or missing.

 

I agree, at 192 kbs or higher, you should capture the quality adequately, with the benefit of a much smaller file size.

 

FYI: I understand that FLAC only saves about 25% of the space of a full wave file.  If I am moving large files and using mass storage, I might as well go with the more universal wave file.

 

So I would prefer either WAV or MP3 at 192 kbs or higher.  But I will take any format provided.

 

~Patrick

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 15:09
To: main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] .wav vs. .flac for distros

 

i'm fine with either as well. if it something in mp3, then no smaller than 192kbs

all the best,

dan


Re: .wav vs. .flac for distros

jackies@tularosa.net
 

I prefer MP3. I don't the other forms of download on my computer.

Jackie S.


Re: One More Intro

B. J. Watkins
 

Hi Larry,

I remember that reel you are talking about. I was librarian for some of the open reel, cassette and CD libraries for SPERDVAC for over 25 years.. I know I wrote the missing information in my catalog and sent the info to the person who was in charge of updating and corrections. I assumed that later versions of the catalog would have all the shows listed. I can't remember if it was in the General Library or the Hollywood Museum series. All my old catalogs are inaccessible at the moment. I vaguely recall it was a 60 minute cassette with only two shows listed. That would mean the Hollywood Museum series. I copied all the shows into my open reel collection. Would you mind telling me what the shows were so I can look them up?

Thanks,
Barbara


From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> on behalf of Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 7:20 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro
 
Good morning Gary,

I hope you are getting through the crisis well and enjoying daily life despite so many places of business and entertainment being closed.  My daughter did tell me yesterday that it looks as if the major league baseball season may soon start, with all the games being played in Arizona.  It would be great to have baseball on television again.

I am writing to update our previous correspondence and to ask your advice on a matter.  After you told me about "Radiogram" I composed an article that was slightly longer than the one I had envisioned because I discovered that on one particular reel in the SPERDVAC General Library there are four different old-time radio soap opera episodes that are not in the OTRR Library collection, one of which I think has never been circulated because it is not even listed in the catalog as being on that reel. 

Earlier this week I submitted the article to Patrick Luciano using the email address Radiogram@....  I have not yet received a reply acknowledging receipt of the submission, which concerns me because most people, as I always do, respond promptly to email messages.

If Patrick is the person you refer to as your good friend and someone who has published quite a few of your notes and articles in "Radiogram", then you know him well enough to advise me as to how to proceed.  I have had a number of thoughts, the foremost being that he looked at the article and rejected it out of hand and did not think it was worth even a reply.  Another is that perhaps he only gets around to reading submissions on weekends and thus has not yet seen it.  One editor I submitted a piece to went ten days without replying to my message.  Finally, exasperated, I wrote him and asked if he  was in a coma.  He replied testily that he has accepted the article, that it is slated for publication at a later date, and that he doesn't think it necessary to jump right on every message he receives and respond immediately.  He said he sometimes goes three days without reading his emails!

I do hope this message is amusing you, but I will finally get to the point.  Do you have any advice for me as to how to proceed?  I am thinking that if I don't hear back from Patrick by Monday, he probably has no interest in what I submitted and I will just find somewhere else to share the information contained in it.  Do you think I should write him again if he has not replied by tomorrow, or just let the matter go?

I will abide by whatever advice you give me if you reply to this message.  Also, please let me know if Patrick is the current editor and whether I did use the correct email address for my submission.

I hope to hear back from you today if it is convenient for you to reply.

Best wishes,
Larry Maupin 
  

-----------------------------------------

From: "Gary Coville"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Monday April 6 2020 12:58:28AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

Larry,

By all means submit what you may have.  You don't need to be  a member of SPERDVAC to submit something for publication.  The email address is Radiogram@...

Regards,
Gary Coville

On 4/5/20 12:15 PM, Larry Maupin wrote:
Hello Gary.  This is a great post.  I think you uploaded some episodes of shows to the Purchasing Group that I have listened to and enjoyed, so thank you for that.

It is impressive that you are a published author and the best friend of "Radiogram's" editor.  I once belonged to SPERDVAC and have considered joining again.  I have a few short pieces that I might submit to him.  One is about an episode of a show that nobody knows about because it is not listed in any of the SPERDVAC library catalogs.  It is not even in the OTRR Library collection, so he might enjoy my identifying it and sending him a short summary of it.  This is a good example of why I read everybody's posts.

Best wishes,

Larry Maupin

-----------------------------------------

From: "Gary Coville"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Sunday April 5 2020 2:15:06PM
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

I’ll turn 71 in a couple of months and confess that my interest in radio carries all the way back to my childhood in the 1950s.  Hardly anything was worse for a kid back then than a night without television.  A tube would burn out and suddenly darkness descended upon the world while we awaited the arrival of the TV repairman.  One night, after this tragedy struck, my mother introduced me to “radio without pictures.”  I still remember the two shows I listened to that fateful evening: Gang Busters and My Little Margie.  My grandparents lived just a block away and it was another ten years or so before they got their first TV set and so I was exposed to radio in their house.  I remember my grandmother liked her soaps; Stella Dallas was one of her favorites.  I specifically recall my grandfather listening to The Lone Ranger at full volume because he was quite hard of hearing.  I couldn’t figure out at the time why the Lone Ranger’s voice sounded so different from my television version.  I decided the radio must somehow be distorting the Ranger’s voice.  Of course, radio changed radically not too long after my introduction to real radio and such programming virtually disappeared.

 

I’ve never lost my fascination with either OTR or OTTV.  While I was in college I purchased my first reel to reel recorder and began acquiring reel to reel tapes of the great radio shows.  I began reading about and researching the history of both radio and television.  Later I started writing about my favorite two subjects.  During the ensuing years, I’ve co-authored three books and a number of articles incorporating some of what I’ve learned.  The editor of SPERDVAC’s Radiogram is my oldest and closest friend and usually desperate for material.  So I usually have an outlet for my ramblings.  I would encourage anyone in the group with the urge to write about some aspect of radio to give it a go.  No better time than right now while we are all so restricted in our movements. 

 

Stay safe, everyone.

 

Gary Coville


--
Larry Maupin


--
Larry Maupin


Re: One More Intro

Larry Maupin
 

Good morning Gary,

I hope you are getting through the crisis well and enjoying daily life despite so many places of business and entertainment being closed.  My daughter did tell me yesterday that it looks as if the major league baseball season may soon start, with all the games being played in Arizona.  It would be great to have baseball on television again.

I am writing to update our previous correspondence and to ask your advice on a matter.  After you told me about "Radiogram" I composed an article that was slightly longer than the one I had envisioned because I discovered that on one particular reel in the SPERDVAC General Library there are four different old-time radio soap opera episodes that are not in the OTRR Library collection, one of which I think has never been circulated because it is not even listed in the catalog as being on that reel. 

Earlier this week I submitted the article to Patrick Luciano using the email address Radiogram@....  I have not yet received a reply acknowledging receipt of the submission, which concerns me because most people, as I always do, respond promptly to email messages.

If Patrick is the person you refer to as your good friend and someone who has published quite a few of your notes and articles in "Radiogram", then you know him well enough to advise me as to how to proceed.  I have had a number of thoughts, the foremost being that he looked at the article and rejected it out of hand and did not think it was worth even a reply.  Another is that perhaps he only gets around to reading submissions on weekends and thus has not yet seen it.  One editor I submitted a piece to went ten days without replying to my message.  Finally, exasperated, I wrote him and asked if he  was in a coma.  He replied testily that he has accepted the article, that it is slated for publication at a later date, and that he doesn't think it necessary to jump right on every message he receives and respond immediately.  He said he sometimes goes three days without reading his emails!

I do hope this message is amusing you, but I will finally get to the point.  Do you have any advice for me as to how to proceed?  I am thinking that if I don't hear back from Patrick by Monday, he probably has no interest in what I submitted and I will just find somewhere else to share the information contained in it.  Do you think I should write him again if he has not replied by tomorrow, or just let the matter go?

I will abide by whatever advice you give me if you reply to this message.  Also, please let me know if Patrick is the current editor and whether I did use the correct email address for my submission.

I hope to hear back from you today if it is convenient for you to reply.

Best wishes,
Larry Maupin 
  

-----------------------------------------

From: "Gary Coville"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Monday April 6 2020 12:58:28AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

Larry,

By all means submit what you may have.  You don't need to be  a member of SPERDVAC to submit something for publication.  The email address is Radiogram@...

Regards,
Gary Coville

On 4/5/20 12:15 PM, Larry Maupin wrote:
Hello Gary.  This is a great post.  I think you uploaded some episodes of shows to the Purchasing Group that I have listened to and enjoyed, so thank you for that.

It is impressive that you are a published author and the best friend of "Radiogram's" editor.  I once belonged to SPERDVAC and have considered joining again.  I have a few short pieces that I might submit to him.  One is about an episode of a show that nobody knows about because it is not listed in any of the SPERDVAC library catalogs.  It is not even in the OTRR Library collection, so he might enjoy my identifying it and sending him a short summary of it.  This is a good example of why I read everybody's posts.

Best wishes,

Larry Maupin

-----------------------------------------

From: "Gary Coville"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Sunday April 5 2020 2:15:06PM
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] One More Intro

I’ll turn 71 in a couple of months and confess that my interest in radio carries all the way back to my childhood in the 1950s.  Hardly anything was worse for a kid back then than a night without television.  A tube would burn out and suddenly darkness descended upon the world while we awaited the arrival of the TV repairman.  One night, after this tragedy struck, my mother introduced me to “radio without pictures.”  I still remember the two shows I listened to that fateful evening: Gang Busters and My Little Margie.  My grandparents lived just a block away and it was another ten years or so before they got their first TV set and so I was exposed to radio in their house.  I remember my grandmother liked her soaps; Stella Dallas was one of her favorites.  I specifically recall my grandfather listening to The Lone Ranger at full volume because he was quite hard of hearing.  I couldn’t figure out at the time why the Lone Ranger’s voice sounded so different from my television version.  I decided the radio must somehow be distorting the Ranger’s voice.  Of course, radio changed radically not too long after my introduction to real radio and such programming virtually disappeared.

 

I’ve never lost my fascination with either OTR or OTTV.  While I was in college I purchased my first reel to reel recorder and began acquiring reel to reel tapes of the great radio shows.  I began reading about and researching the history of both radio and television.  Later I started writing about my favorite two subjects.  During the ensuing years, I’ve co-authored three books and a number of articles incorporating some of what I’ve learned.  The editor of SPERDVAC’s Radiogram is my oldest and closest friend and usually desperate for material.  So I usually have an outlet for my ramblings.  I would encourage anyone in the group with the urge to write about some aspect of radio to give it a go.  No better time than right now while we are all so restricted in our movements. 

 

Stay safe, everyone.

 

Gary Coville


--
Larry Maupin


--
Larry Maupin


Re: My Friend Irma - Where is Irma from?

Kevin Karweck
 

It's simple...she's a blonde!

5

On Apr 17, 2020, at 8:54 AM, Ryan Ellett via groups.io <oldradiotimes@...> wrote:

I've been listening to a lot of My Friend Irma's lately and have a question for those who may be more versed in the series than I. In early episodes it's mentioned a couple times that she is from Wisconsin (as was writer/creator Cy Howard). But later in the first season that changes to Minnesota. Anyone know the reason or if it changes back to Wisconsin later? I know continuity was much looser in OTR days but sometimes there is a good explanation for such changes.
Ryan


Lora Lawton

Larry Maupin
 

Broadcast Date: Wednesday, May 4, 1948. NBC.

Sponsor: Bab-O

Suggested Episode Title: Peter's Hospital Room Discovered Empty

Summary: Recriminations abound as everyone blames everyone else for Peter's disappearance from the hospital.  But the loudest voice of all is that of Bert Harris, who knows more that anyone else about how the escape occurred and where Peter is now. 

--
Larry Maupin


My Friend Irma - Where is Irma from?

Ryan Ellett
 

I've been listening to a lot of My Friend Irma's lately and have a question for those who may be more versed in the series than I. In early episodes it's mentioned a couple times that she is from Wisconsin (as was writer/creator Cy Howard). But later in the first season that changes to Minnesota. Anyone know the reason or if it changes back to Wisconsin later? I know continuity was much looser in OTR days but sometimes there is a good explanation for such changes.
Ryan


Re: .wav vs. .flac for distros

barry nadler
 

On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 5:09 PM, Dan via groups.io <danwitkoske@...> wrote:

i'm fine with either as well. if it something in mp3, then no smaller than 192kbs
all the best,
dan

--
Marc Olayne


Re: .wav vs. .flac for distros

Dan
 

i'm fine with either as well. if it something in mp3, then no smaller than 192kbs
all the best,
dan


Re: Father Knows Best Missing Episodes

BrianWest2@...
 

Ryan,

I finished my three episodes and they all seemed fine. The audio file was good and the titles matched the show. Let me know if you needed something else.

Regards,

Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Ellett via groups.io <oldradiotimes@...>
To: main <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 10:50 am
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Father Knows Best Missing Episodes

Got it, Barb! It's one that neither of us had, thank you!
Ryan 


Re: Dropbox/OneDrive - The Weird Circle v2004

Rob
 

Dowloaded without issues, thanks.

Looking forward to listening in the dark….

rob


On Apr 16, 2020, at 4:12 AM, Brian Kavanaugh via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:

(cross-posted from the distro group, since there still aren't that many people there)

OTRR certified The Weird Circle v2004 (3.35 GB on Windows/78 episodes) is available for download from Dropbox or OneDrive. Thanks to all those who made this collection possible.
 
These links will be available for 30 days.
 
 
This series has been uploaded to our YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/c/OldTimeRadioResearchers
 
Series synopsis:
 
The Weird Circle was a syndicated 30-minute program produced by the NBC Radio Recording Division (NBCRRD). The first 26 episodes were offered for sale beginning in 1943 and were purchased by an initial 40 stations across the United States and Canada. The NBCRRD staff utilized classic mystery and suspense stories to create high quality radio dramas that, curiously, lacked any musical background for reasons that have never been entirely confirmed.
 
In January 1944 it was announced in trade periodicals that 13 new episodes would be reaching the market, bringing the total to 39 aired over 34 Canadian stations and 65 American stations. By the middle of that same year the program’s growth had doubled since its debut, both in the number of episodes to 52 and the number of stations over which it was broadcast to 82. In August 1944 an additional 13 episodes were released bringing the total to 65 and then the final batch of 13 shows were added in the spring of 1945.
 
Seven years after the final episodes were produced the series remained one of the most popular syndicate series for the RCA Recorded Program Service (the successor to the NBCRRD). Sale rates for the show in 1952 varied widely depending on station and market size, ranging from $3 to $150 per episode that year, down 25% due to increasing television competition. Industry sales reports indicate the popularity of mystery programs such as The Weird Circle was still increasing in the mid-1950s. As late as 1961 evidence shows the series was still being offered for sale to individual stations, more than fifteen years after the final episode was put on wax.
 
Revision History:
 
2004:
Many episode versions and upgraded encodes
New advertisement scans
Updated CD artwork
New series summary


Re: .wav vs. .flac for distros

W4ARZ Steve
 

Personally for downloads I much prefer mp3 . Old radio shows do not need to be flac or wav which is overkill given the quality and response of the original recordings. Any good 128kbps mp3 is more than adequate for excellent quality not to mention the smaller file size that uploads much faster that a fat hulking wav or flac file.
For my radio stations I have to use wav files but when I compare a 1940s-1960s song mp3 320kbps  vs wav....there's not a grain of difference in the audio. So convert them to mp3 and save


Lora Lawton

Larry Maupin
 

Broadcast Date: Monday, May2, 1948

Sponsor: Bab-O

Suggested Episode Title: "Peter Escapes From Hospital"

Summary: Peter does not want to submit to the brain surgery that his doctors are urging him to have, fearing that it might kill him or leave him incapacitated for the rest of his life.  His friend and employee at the Carver Shipbuilding Company, Bert Harris, tells the doctors in no uncertain terms that he thinks Lora has railroaded Peter into "hospitals and an insane asylum."  Peter escapes and gets into Bessie's car, and they leave for the cabin in the woods that belongs to Bert and Bessie.

--
Larry Maupin


Re: Father Knows Best Missing Episodes

Ryan Ellett
 

Got it, Barb! It's one that neither of us had, thank you!
Ryan 


Re: My Friend Irma scripts

Ryan Ellett
 

Nevermind, I came across several that I was sent prior and they all have titles. Now these are all from later in the run so I suppose it could be different during the early years.
Ryan

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