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Re: tracing the sound history of DUN DUN DUNNNN sound

K & J Hammel
 

Thanks for sharing this. It was a fun little story. For those who don’t wanna have to listen through the things that come before, this story starts at about 36 1/2 minutes in on the podcast and goes to about 41 minutes in. Really worth listening to for those who are fans of old time radio and the classic sting.


On Mar 12, 2022, at 11:18 AM, Eric Floden <eric.f99999@...> wrote:

I heard this on CBC show Day 6 today -- it was pretty interesting. It references OTR radio researcher...

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/stuck-super-yachts-the-letter-z-in-russia-owning-colours-as-nfts-covid-19-vaccine-inhaler-and-more-1.6380640

EricF
Vancouver DUN DUN DUNNN BC
OK, I used it wrong...


tracing the sound history of DUN DUN DUNNNN sound

Eric Floden
 

I heard this on CBC show Day 6 today -- it was pretty interesting. It references OTR radio researcher...

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/stuck-super-yachts-the-letter-z-in-russia-owning-colours-as-nfts-covid-19-vaccine-inhaler-and-more-1.6380640

EricF
Vancouver DUN DUN DUNNN BC
OK, I used it wrong...


Re: Dropbox/OneDrive/pCloud - If Freedom Failed curated v. 2203 #new-distro #curated

Brian Kavanaugh
 

Hi Max,

The set has 26 promos, one for each episode. All the episodes and promos are flac.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 2:20 AM Max Schmid <mschmid@...> wrote:
Does the IF FREEDOM FAILED set contain all the promos for the show?? I have them if they are not included.


Re: Dropbox/OneDrive/pCloud - If Freedom Failed curated v. 2203 #new-distro #curated

Max Schmid
 

Does the IF FREEDOM FAILED set contain all the promos for the show?? I have them if they are not included.


Re: Dropbox/OneDrive/pCloud - If Freedom Failed curated v. 2203 #new-distro #curated

Park Lawrence
 

Thanks Brian, Park

On Mar 8, 2022, at 9:24 AM, Brian Kavanaugh via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:

Good morning, Park,

I no longer have it up in my shares, but the updated set is on archive.orghttps://archive.org/details/OTRR_Certified_Dangerous_Assignment


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 9:18 AM Park Lawrence <plawrence@...> wrote:
Brian, Can I get part 1 & 2 of dangerous assignment. I down loaded the program, but somehow I ended up with 3 of part 3. I am just checking your work against my list. I discovered one episode that I did not have. It was a senior moment mistake. Thanks, PArK W LaWReNCe, ThAt CHeM gUY

On Mar 5, 2022, at 6:56 AM, Brian Kavanaugh via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:

A new curated set for the series If Freedom Failed was announced in the distro group, https://oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io/g/OTRRDistroGroup/.





Re: Dropbox/OneDrive/pCloud - If Freedom Failed curated v. 2203 #new-distro #curated

Brian Kavanaugh
 

Good morning, Park,

I no longer have it up in my shares, but the updated set is on archive.orghttps://archive.org/details/OTRR_Certified_Dangerous_Assignment


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 9:18 AM Park Lawrence <plawrence@...> wrote:
Brian, Can I get part 1 & 2 of dangerous assignment. I down loaded the program, but somehow I ended up with 3 of part 3. I am just checking your work against my list. I discovered one episode that I did not have. It was a senior moment mistake. Thanks, PArK W LaWReNCe, ThAt CHeM gUY

On Mar 5, 2022, at 6:56 AM, Brian Kavanaugh via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:

A new curated set for the series If Freedom Failed was announced in the distro group, https://oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io/g/OTRRDistroGroup/.


Re: Dropbox/OneDrive/pCloud - If Freedom Failed curated v. 2203 #new-distro #curated

Park Lawrence
 

Brian, Can I get part 1 & 2 of dangerous assignment. I down loaded the program, but somehow I ended up with 3 of part 3. I am just checking your work against my list. I discovered one episode that I did not have. It was a senior moment mistake. Thanks, PArK W LaWReNCe, ThAt CHeM gUY

On Mar 5, 2022, at 6:56 AM, Brian Kavanaugh via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:

A new curated set for the series If Freedom Failed was announced in the distro group, https://oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io/g/OTRRDistroGroup/.


Re: Dropbox/OneDrive/pCloud - If Freedom Failed curated v. 2203 #new-distro #curated

Joe Webb
 

An impressive list of stars participated in these productions. Here is a list of the recordings:
01 A Matter of Fact (Gregory Peck, Raymond Burr)
02 The Ballplayers (James Whitmore)
03 The Pledge (Jeffrey Silver)
04 The Heavens Fall (Mark Stevens)
05 Danse Macabre (Lloyd Nolan)
06 The Traitor (J Carrol Naish)
07 The Bishop of Springfield (Thomas Gomez)
08 Tears for Miss Bishop (Mercedes McCambridge, Raymond Burr)
09 Suicide By Order (John McIntire)
10 The Monkey's Cage (Walter Kingsford)
11 No Escape (Mala Powers, Raymond Burr)
12 Springfield Revisited (Jay Novello)
13 Circulation (Jeff Chandler)
14 Enemy of the People (George Macready)
15 No Other Way (Mary Anderson)
16 Sapphire Anniversary (John Dehner, Peggy Webber)
17 The Lenin Prize (Pat McGeehan)
18 Trial and Terror (Stanley Waxman)
19 Delirium (Carlton Young)
20 Your Loving Son, Mike (Jeffrey Silver, Lou Krugman)
21 Prescription For Murder (David Brian)
22 The Man Who Died Twice (Hans Conried)
23 The Valley of the Shadow (Don Randolph)
24 Handicap (Sheldon Leonard)
25 The Toss-Up (Dana Andrews)
26 The Union Killer (Jack Webb)

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Stories of the Pacific Powerland

Ryan Ellett
 

OTRR has 45 episodes of Stories of Pacific Powerland (Incorrectly titled Tales of Pacific Powerland in our library), 391-435. Does anyone have further episodes of this series? My research so far indicates about 1,300 were aired between 1961 and 1977 in the Northwest region.
Ryan


Re: The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

Walden Hughes
 

Hi Joe,

 

I know in 1948 they called the Bob Hope show the New Swan show.  Bob had a new cast in 1948 with Doris Day, Bill Farrell, Ireen      Ryan, and Jack Kirkwood.  Maybe that was a radio trend in 1948 if they did major cast changes they called it new.  Jack did go through   cast changes over the years.  Take care,

 

Walden

 

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe Webb via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 10:35 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

 

Thanks for the richer context to your explanation.

Yes I know AFRS did this regularly, especially for the variety shows like Fred Allen -- Fred was too topical and AFRS did not want shows to sound dated since they could be played weeks or months later, so they tended to stick with music and skits. Allen ad-libbed with something in the news so often they had trouble coming up with a full-length program, so they created these composite programs

There are clear remnants of AFRS but the ending is suspicious
Early collectors did not like AFRS recordings because they were "inauthentic" and they would cut out AFRS announcements and also the AFRS signoffs
At the end, there is an announcer saying "The Jack Carson Show" and then it fades
It could be that was the beginning of an AFRS closing ID that was removed.

I did some Variety searches and "The New Jack Carson Show" was sponsored by General Foods. There's no such indication of that in this recording.

So your hunch that this is an AFRS composite recording makes sense. Now we have to wonder what the original source recordings are, and if any of them actually came from "The New" series beyond the show opening.

THANKS very much!


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Re: The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

Joe Webb
 

Thanks for the richer context to your explanation.

Yes I know AFRS did this regularly, especially for the variety shows like Fred Allen -- Fred was too topical and AFRS did not want shows to sound dated since they could be played weeks or months later, so they tended to stick with music and skits. Allen ad-libbed with something in the news so often they had trouble coming up with a full-length program, so they created these composite programs

There are clear remnants of AFRS but the ending is suspicious
Early collectors did not like AFRS recordings because they were "inauthentic" and they would cut out AFRS announcements and also the AFRS signoffs
At the end, there is an announcer saying "The Jack Carson Show" and then it fades
It could be that was the beginning of an AFRS closing ID that was removed.

I did some Variety searches and "The New Jack Carson Show" was sponsored by General Foods. There's no such indication of that in this recording.

So your hunch that this is an AFRS composite recording makes sense. Now we have to wonder what the original source recordings are, and if any of them actually came from "The New" series beyond the show opening.

THANKS very much!


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Re: The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

Walden Hughes
 

Hi Joe,

 

I know AFRS did this a lot in 1948.  I have several Bob Hope shows where they took two different shows and made it in to one.  For example you can compared a network Bob Hope show from 1948 and match it up again the AFRS  with the same date and see how they did this.  I bet they did this with Jack Carson show in 1948.  Jack had different version of his shows over the years.  SPERDVAC had some in 1944.  This is during the time Shirley Mitchell played his girlfriend on the Christmas show for example.  Then when they move to Campbell  Soup Norma Jean Nillson  became  a feature player and she got bill board as 9 years old Norma Jean Nillson.  In the 1950s Sue Rainey who is a SPERDVAC honorary  member.  Tolde Larry Gassman and I she was the singer on the show.  It was a smaller cast during that time.  Take care,

 

Walden

 

   

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe Webb via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 3:11 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

 

Walden:

Then where does the "New Jack Carson Show" opening come from?

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Re: Dropbox/OneDrive/pCloud - If Freedom Failed curated v. 2203 #new-distro #curated

Litsey, Alan
 

Hi Brian. Thank you! So appreciate your updates on the great distros. Best, Alan 


On Mar 5, 2022, at 7:57 AM, Brian Kavanaugh via groups.io <brian@...> wrote:

A new curated set for the series If Freedom Failed was announced in the distro group, https://oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io/g/OTRRDistroGroup/.


Dropbox/OneDrive/pCloud - If Freedom Failed curated v. 2203 #new-distro #curated

Brian Kavanaugh
 

A new curated set for the series If Freedom Failed was announced in the distro group, https://oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io/g/OTRRDistroGroup/.


Re: The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

Joe Webb
 

Walden:

Then where does the "New Jack Carson Show" opening come from?

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Re: The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

Walden Hughes
 

Hi Joe,

 

I played the show and I think we have two shows put together.  The first one up to Bing Crosby either 1944 or 1945.  They talked about Bing sponsor Kraft.  They featured Bing song from the movie Going My Way.  The end must be around 1948 when the movie the Champ came out.  Take care,

 

Walden

 

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe Webb via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 8:38 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

 

Here's an interesting item, but we can't date it.

New Jack Carson Show (sometime Oct48-Jul49) GloriaDeHaven BingCrosby EdwArnold.mp3
https://we.tl/t-LO4vbpAS49

As best I can determine it is the only surviving recording of "The New Jack Carson Show" after he left Sealtest's sponsorship. The show began in October 1948 and ended after one July 1949 performance.

It's similar but it's not this (from RGI)...

Command Performance. February 01, 1945. Program #160. AFRS origination. Gloria De Haven sings, "The Man I Love." Jack Carson plans to show Gloria around Hollywood. Carmen Miranda sings, "Tico, Tico." The date above is the recording date. Ken Carpenter (announcer), Gloria De Haven (m. c.), Jack Carson, Edward Arnold, Carmen Miranda, Bing Crosby. 30:47. Audio Condition: Very good. Complete.

It's a re-used script, it seems, but not a re-used performance. The CP broadcast is at least 3.5 and possibly 4.5 years before this one.

There are no newspaper.com clips that relate to this line-up of guests. DeHaven and Carson were part of some fund-raising stage performances around this time, and those come up in the searches.

Perhaps someone who has something other than newspapers.com with a different selection of newspaper archives can find something?

In the meantime... enjoy the show!

JWW
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Re: The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

Joe Webb
 

Thanks very much for looking!
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Re: The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

Scott Mahan
 

I have newspaperarchive.com in addition to newspapers.com and, indeed, it does have a different, although overlapping, selection of newspaper archives.

However, I don’t find anything there either.

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Webb via groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:38 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

 

Here's an interesting item, but we can't date it.

New Jack Carson Show (sometime Oct48-Jul49) GloriaDeHaven BingCrosby EdwArnold.mp3
https://we.tl/t-LO4vbpAS49

As best I can determine it is the only surviving recording of "The New Jack Carson Show" after he left Sealtest's sponsorship. The show began in October 1948 and ended after one July 1949 performance.

It's similar but it's not this (from RGI)...

Command Performance. February 01, 1945. Program #160. AFRS origination. Gloria De Haven sings, "The Man I Love." Jack Carson plans to show Gloria around Hollywood. Carmen Miranda sings, "Tico, Tico." The date above is the recording date. Ken Carpenter (announcer), Gloria De Haven (m. c.), Jack Carson, Edward Arnold, Carmen Miranda, Bing Crosby. 30:47. Audio Condition: Very good. Complete.

It's a re-used script, it seems, but not a re-used performance. The CP broadcast is at least 3.5 and possibly 4.5 years before this one.

There are no newspaper.com clips that relate to this line-up of guests. DeHaven and Carson were part of some fund-raising stage performances around this time, and those come up in the searches.

Perhaps someone who has something other than newspapers.com with a different selection of newspaper archives can find something?

In the meantime... enjoy the show!

JWW
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The New Jack Carson Show -- need help getting a date for it

Joe Webb
 

Here's an interesting item, but we can't date it.

New Jack Carson Show (sometime Oct48-Jul49) GloriaDeHaven BingCrosby EdwArnold.mp3
https://we.tl/t-LO4vbpAS49

As best I can determine it is the only surviving recording of "The New Jack Carson Show" after he left Sealtest's sponsorship. The show began in October 1948 and ended after one July 1949 performance.

It's similar but it's not this (from RGI)...
Command Performance. February 01, 1945. Program #160. AFRS origination. Gloria De Haven sings, "The Man I Love." Jack Carson plans to show Gloria around Hollywood. Carmen Miranda sings, "Tico, Tico." The date above is the recording date. Ken Carpenter (announcer), Gloria De Haven (m. c.), Jack Carson, Edward Arnold, Carmen Miranda, Bing Crosby. 30:47. Audio Condition: Very good. Complete.
It's a re-used script, it seems, but not a re-used performance. The CP broadcast is at least 3.5 and possibly 4.5 years before this one.

There are no newspaper.com clips that relate to this line-up of guests. DeHaven and Carson were part of some fund-raising stage performances around this time, and those come up in the searches.

Perhaps someone who has something other than newspapers.com with a different selection of newspaper archives can find something?

In the meantime... enjoy the show!

JWW
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Re: Headphones

John Nicholson
 

I have the Bose QuietComfort 35II Wireless in silver (seem better constructed than the black ones) and love the sound. The built-in microphone is really good with Dragon Naturally Speaking for dictation (basically no good with Office dictation, but I think that's a problem with Office). Can be wired if desired. Reviews say to pick the 35II over the 45II (the newer model) because of better built-in controls.
   John Nicholson

On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 4:36 PM StewGold via groups.io <stewcorse=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I've Sennheiser HD680's which are amazing, and expensive, but I also use the Sennheiser HD6xx from Drop.com , which are half the price but damn near as good. ( and for , it's ok if I drop them in the sea OneAudio's Studio 1s are dirt cheap. just lacking that bass edge)

On Thursday, 3 March 2022, 19:48:46 GMT, Wild West Designs <evan@...> wrote:


Looking for a good pair of audiophile headphones.  Wanted to get a list to see what everyone here likes, which ones to stay away from etc.

Thanks,

Evan



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John

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