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Re: 15-minute Life with Luigi

Ryan Ellett
 

Yes, we do have that episode. Thanks for reminding me that came from Jerry's post, I don't think it was labeled as such.

Ryan

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On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 02:16:06 PM CDT, eliyahusimlevin via groups.io <eliyahusimlevin@...> wrote:


Sorry I'm late but do you already have the pilot for the original show, The Little Immigrant? Jerry Haendiges shared it a while back, and it's on his site for download/listen.


Re: 15-minute Life with Luigi

Eliyahu Levin
 

Sorry I'm late but do you already have the pilot for the original show, The Little Immigrant? Jerry Haendiges shared it a while back, and it's on his site for download/listen.


"Life With Luigi" in 1954

David Lee Smith <fourthhostcelestials@...>
 

THE VESTAL NEWS , Vestal, N. Y. Wednesday, February 14, 1951

"If plans go through, the series, "Four for the Family," will feature "My Friend Irma," "Life with Luigi," "My Favorite Husband." and "Our Miss Brooks" on an alternating basis, with each show televised once every four weeks."

Maybe the following kept "Life with Luigi" from having many radio episodes in 1954, if it even made it to the air.

LONG ISLAND STAR.JOURNAL. TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 1954

"CY HOWARD'S being sued on "My Friend Irma" because of similarity to "My Sister Eileen." His "Life With Luigi" allegedly reminiscent of "Education of Hyman Kaplan." His "That's My Boy" supposedly a carbon of "Ah, Eilderness." Howard's latest, "Uncle Louie," reportedly a facsimile of "Happy Times." And you think you got problems !"

LONG ISLAND STAR-JOURNAL, TUESDAY, MARCH 2, 1954

"Troubles getting you down ? Consider the case of writer-producer Cy Howard, who's being sued on four of his shows, "My Friend, Irma," "Life With Luigi," "That's My Boy" and "Uncle Louie" (his latest) for their alleged similarity to "My Sister, Eileen," "The Education of Hyman Kaplan," "Ah, Wilderness" and a|character in "Happy Times," in that order ! Ouch."

David Lee Smith


Re: 15-minute Life with Luigi

Ryan Ellett
 

Don Frey, an old-school collector who bought from Goldin back in the late 60s and early 70s, has the same three 15-minute episodes in his collection with an accompanying note that they were recorded on the same day for a possible revival. That note is not on Goldin's website. I checked with Ivan who wrote the Radio Spirits essay and he used these same sources (Goldin, Dunning). Goldin's date of May 30, 1954 very possibly reflects the day all three were recorded. For now I'll work under the assumption they were not aired unless we dig up evidence otherwise.
Thanks for digging, that's what makes this hobby ever-exciting,
Ryan

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On Monday, May 25, 2020, 07:15:21 PM CDT, Randy Watts via groups.io <rew1014@...> wrote:





A number of newspapers carried the following brief announcement in late spring/early summer 1954 that LIFE WITH LUIGI would be returning to radio as a daily serial.

"'Life with Luigi," starring J. Carroll Naish, didn't make the grade as a TV show but returns to CBS radio as a daily 15-minute soap opera."

No more can be found about a daily LIFE WITH LUIGI radio show after July, when newspapers carried a story that Cy Howard, creator of LUIGI, had refused to sign an exclusive contract with CBS and was taking his shows (LUIGI, MY FRIEND IRMA and THAT'S MY BOY) elsewhere. 

Which would explain why both IRMA and THAT'S MY BOY ended on CBS that year.

In late 1954 a few newspapers carried an announcement that Howard had signed with NBC. The following year announcements were made that Howard had a new series coming titled JUST PLAIN FOLKS, a sitcom that was to star Zsa Zsa Gabor. Later that year there were news stories that NBC had passed on JUST PLAIN FOLKS and had decided against reviving LUIGI and IRMA.

Maybe the 15-minute LUIGI episodes that are out there were pilots or tests, made to see if the series would work as a daily serial. That's just supposition on my part. In newspaper searches there was no evidence to be found that LUIGI ever made it to the air as a daily.

Randy

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Re: 15-minute Life with Luigi

Randy Watts
 




A number of newspapers carried the following brief announcement in late spring/early summer 1954 that LIFE WITH LUIGI would be returning to radio as a daily serial.

"'Life with Luigi," starring J. Carroll Naish, didn't make the grade as a TV show but returns to CBS radio as a daily 15-minute soap opera."

No more can be found about a daily LIFE WITH LUIGI radio show after July, when newspapers carried a story that Cy Howard, creator of LUIGI, had refused to sign an exclusive contract with CBS and was taking his shows (LUIGI, MY FRIEND IRMA and THAT'S MY BOY) elsewhere. 

Which would explain why both IRMA and THAT'S MY BOY ended on CBS that year.

In late 1954 a few newspapers carried an announcement that Howard had signed with NBC. The following year announcements were made that Howard had a new series coming titled JUST PLAIN FOLKS, a sitcom that was to star Zsa Zsa Gabor. Later that year there were news stories that NBC had passed on JUST PLAIN FOLKS and had decided against reviving LUIGI and IRMA.

Maybe the 15-minute LUIGI episodes that are out there were pilots or tests, made to see if the series would work as a daily serial. That's just supposition on my part. In newspaper searches there was no evidence to be found that LUIGI ever made it to the air as a daily.

Randy

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On Sunday, May 24, 2020, 07:48:14 PM CDT, DaveC <craigdav@...> wrote:


In an essay, "What Luigi Basco Taught Americans about Italian Americans" (in a 2010 book, Anti-Italianism: Essays on a Prejudice, eds. W Connell and F. Gardaphi), the essay author, Dominic Candeloro, states that some 15-minute episodes were broadcast in 1954. The link to the essay is below. Hope it works.

https://books.google.com/books?id=hQNeAQAAQBAJ&pg=PT112#v=onepage&q&f=false


Re: 15-minute Life with Luigi

DaveC
 

"Life with Luigi made a brief reappearance on radio in 1954 in a fifteen-minute strip-show format…and then closed the antique shop permanently."

From the Radio Spirits website:
http://www.radiospirits.info/2017/09/21/atsa-funny-thing-when-im-a-say-it-itsa-come-out-different/


Re: 15-minute Life with Luigi

Scott Galley
 

Although I find our host slightly irritating (actually, more than slightly, although I'm sure she mean well), my interest in silent film brought me to the Orphan Film Symposium, which had this little video devoted to radio:



and a site which is going live in October which will be a goldmine for vintage radio show collectors.

Check out the video.

 
Yours faithfully,
Scott


Re: 15-minute Life with Luigi

Ryan Ellett
 

Thanks Dave for the reference. I wish the author had cited his source for that claim. I wonder if it was based on Goldin's log. Maybe Luigi writer Mac Benoff's collection at the American Heritage Center gives more details but the brief collection description online doesn't say much.
Ryan

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On Sunday, May 24, 2020, 07:48:14 PM CDT, DaveC <craigdav@...> wrote:


In an essay, "What Luigi Basco Taught Americans about Italian Americans" (in a 2010 book, Anti-Italianism: Essays on a Prejudice, eds. W Connell and F. Gardaphi), the essay author, Dominic Candeloro, states that some 15-minute episodes were broadcast in 1954. The link to the essay is below. Hope it works.

https://books.google.com/books?id=hQNeAQAAQBAJ&pg=PT112#v=onepage&q&f=false


Re: 15-minute Life with Luigi

K & J Hammel
 

Thanks for Sharing this. Very interesting Essay, even with the one page missing.

Kathy

On Sunday, May 24, 2020, 05:48:14 PM PDT, DaveC <craigdav@...> wrote:


In an essay, "What Luigi Basco Taught Americans about Italian Americans" (in a 2010 book, Anti-Italianism: Essays on a Prejudice, eds. W Connell and F. Gardaphi), the essay author, Dominic Candeloro, states that some 15-minute episodes were broadcast in 1954. The link to the essay is below. Hope it works.

https://books.google.com/books?id=hQNeAQAAQBAJ&pg=PT112#v=onepage&q&f=false


Re: 15-minute Life with Luigi

DaveC
 

In an essay, "What Luigi Basco Taught Americans about Italian Americans" (in a 2010 book, Anti-Italianism: Essays on a Prejudice, eds. W Connell and F. Gardaphi), the essay author, Dominic Candeloro, states that some 15-minute episodes were broadcast in 1954. The link to the essay is below. Hope it works.

https://books.google.com/books?id=hQNeAQAAQBAJ&pg=PT112#v=onepage&q&f=false


15-minute Life with Luigi

Ryan Ellett
 

If anyone would like a research project, we have three episodes of Life with Luigi that are 15 minutes long, the same three listed at the end of Goldin's log of the show. He has them listed as May 1954 but there's no record of any 15-minute broadcasts that I can find during that time or anytime, actually. The 30-minute show left the air abruptly in March, 1953, likely because writer ac Benoff was called to testify before the House Un-American Activities Committee. The shows have an audience but no sponsor associated with them. Joe Webb and I suspect these 15-minute programs were auditions for a proposed quarter-hour version; I did find newspaper references to attempts to revive it in this format in 1954. I find half-hour broadcasts as late as summer 1954 (Hawaii), I assume they are re-runs of earlier shows. If anyone wants to try and find evidence the series was actually broadcast in this format, consider this a challenge!
Ryan


Re: New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 1

ehrbek
 

In the Weiss part 1 Goldindex lists the WMCA Saks Show as the Sachs Show with a date of Feb12 39
 
The Sachs Program. February 12, 1939. Intercity Broadcasting System, WMCA, New York aircheck. Sponsored by: Sachs Furniture Stores. The program is announced as the 5506th presentation of "The Three Little Sachs." The first tune is, "You Look Good To Me." Ernie Hare is announced as being out sick. Billy Jones, Marilyn Hare, Sam Ross and His Orchestra, Jim Brennan (substituting for Ernie Hare), Jay Sommers (writer, producer), Joe O'Brien (announcer). 28:23. Audio condition: Very good. Complete.
 
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And for those that use the Goldin site often, Jerry Haendiges shared on Facebook that in a private note from Goldin he (Dave Goldin) hinted the site would be undergoing major changes in the near future. No inkling as to what those changes would be. Should be interesting.
Ryan
 
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On Saturday, May 23, 2020, 09:21:29 AM CDT, Joe Webb via groups.io <drjoewebb@...> wrote:
 
 
please do your best to verify the dates
MANY of the misdated files from the 2000s were from bad handwriting on reel contents sheets
this will be no exception
as Nightkey has taught us, always listen for clues in the programs
also be aware that RadioGoldindex also has errors here and there and there are people working to correct them. when those listings were originally compiled, NO ONE had access to the kinds of information we do today. it's a marvelous time to be collecting and researching OTR
the verification process that OTRR developed was what drew me to it




New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 2

Ryan Ellett
 

Here is a second set of shows digitized from the reel-to-reels of longtime OTR hobbyist Stu Weiss provided by Joe Webb.
Link

Enjoy and let us know about errors in names, dates, etc.

Ryan


Re: New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 1

Ryan Ellett
 

And for those that use the Goldin site often, Jerry Haendiges shared on Facebook that in a private note from Goldin he (Dave Goldin) hinted the site would be undergoing major changes in the near future. No inkling as to what those changes would be. Should be interesting.
Ryan

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www.OTRRLibrary.org



On Saturday, May 23, 2020, 09:21:29 AM CDT, Joe Webb via groups.io <drjoewebb@...> wrote:


please do your best to verify the dates
MANY of the misdated files from the 2000s were from bad handwriting on reel contents sheets
this will be no exception
as Nightkey has taught us, always listen for clues in the programs
also be aware that RadioGoldindex also has errors here and there and there are people working to correct them. when those listings were originally compiled, NO ONE had access to the kinds of information we do today. it's a marvelous time to be collecting and researching OTR
the verification process that OTRR developed was what drew me to it




Re: New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 1

Joe Webb
 

please do your best to verify the dates
MANY of the misdated files from the 2000s were from bad handwriting on reel contents sheets
this will be no exception
as Nightkey has taught us, always listen for clues in the programs
also be aware that RadioGoldindex also has errors here and there and there are people working to correct them. when those listings were originally compiled, NO ONE had access to the kinds of information we do today. it's a marvelous time to be collecting and researching OTR
the verification process that OTRR developed was what drew me to it


--


Re: New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 1

Ryan Ellett
 

No, I am not sure about any of these; I've only listened to one. These are being shared as they were received, vetting like this is always good before they're put up in the library.

Ryan

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On Friday, May 22, 2020, 11:51:24 AM CDT, B. J. Watkins <kinseyfan@...> wrote:


Are you sure That's My Pop 7-29-49 isn't 7-29-45? Both Haendigas and Goldin have 1945.


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Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 1
 
We will be adding a number of new programs to our OTRR Library. These come from the Stu Weiss Collection via Joe Webb. This is the first batch; here they are for convenient access in one place.

Ryan

 


Re: New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 1

B. J. Watkins
 

Also, Under Arrest 48-06-26 Paris Road, I think should be 49-06-26.


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We will be adding a number of new programs to our OTRR Library. These come from the Stu Weiss Collection via Joe Webb. This is the first batch; here they are for convenient access in one place.

Ryan

 


Re: New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 1

B. J. Watkins
 

Are you sure That's My Pop 7-29-49 isn't 7-29-45? Both Haendigas and Goldin have 1945.


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Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 1
 
We will be adding a number of new programs to our OTRR Library. These come from the Stu Weiss Collection via Joe Webb. This is the first batch; here they are for convenient access in one place.

Ryan

 


Re: New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 1

Scott Mahan
 

In spite of the reference to 1948 in the tuberculosis public service spot, I think the date on this should be 1949-06-26:

Under Arrest 1948-06-26 Paris Road FINAL.flac

 

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We will be adding a number of new programs to our OTRR Library. These come from the Stu Weiss Collection via Joe Webb. This is the first batch; here they are for convenient access in one place.

Ryan

 


Re: New Episodes from Stu Weiss Collection pt. 1

Richard Davenport
 

Got it.  Please feel free to use me as a backup for anything.  I have unlimited storage online.  60+ TB here. 

Rick

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On Friday, May 22, 2020, 10:30:48 AM CDT, Ryan Ellett via groups.io <oldradiotimes@...> wrote:


The episode "Under Arrest 1948-06-06 for a pack of cigarettes" has been corrected and updated on Archive.

Ryan

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