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Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Michael Hingson
 

Absolutely right.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Scott Mahan
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 6:12 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

You don’t know South African radio? You’ve got some good stuff to discover.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 4:58 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Scott, Springbok sounds interesting, and I have never heard of it before.  As for the BBC Sherlock Holmes episodes prior to 1962, I don't know.  I think the OTRR Library has some South African and some Australian programs from the old-time radio era, but I have not noticed anything from the BBC, Radio Canada, Radio France, Deutsche Welle or Radio Japan.  Someone else can perhaps better explain the principle of inclusion and exclusion followed by the library in determining what to add to the collection.

 

Larry

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From: "Scott Mahan"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 5:43:09PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I have 210 BBC Sherlock Holmes episodes ranging from 1945 to 2010. Would we consider the 65 that are prior to 1962 OTR? Or is the BBC just BBC? And I have 47 Springbok episodes from the 80’s. You can’t not like Springbok (Squad Cars!) but you just can’t call it OTR. I kind-of think OTR is an American thing. Fun to talk about.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:26 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Scott, I have dozens of BBC dramas on cassettes, and most of the ones I have listened to are very good.  I do not think that any are in the OTRR Library collection, probably because most people do not consider them to be old-time radio.

 

Thank you for your comments about The Little Things in Life.  It seems that you might think it qualifies as an old-time radio series.

 

Larry

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From: "Scott Galley via groups.io"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 9:54:19AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Although not American, the BBC never stopped doing drama. The CBC continued into the 1990's at least, and South Africa and Australia were doing OTR type shows into the 1980's. A treasure trove is out there, waiting to be listened to. More drama, adventure and comedy than anyone could listen to in two lifetimes. And most, if not all of it top quality productions.

S


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Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Scott Mahan
 

You don’t know South African radio? You’ve got some good stuff to discover.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 4:58 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Scott, Springbok sounds interesting, and I have never heard of it before.  As for the BBC Sherlock Holmes episodes prior to 1962, I don't know.  I think the OTRR Library has some South African and some Australian programs from the old-time radio era, but I have not noticed anything from the BBC, Radio Canada, Radio France, Deutsche Welle or Radio Japan.  Someone else can perhaps better explain the principle of inclusion and exclusion followed by the library in determining what to add to the collection.

 

Larry

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From: "Scott Mahan"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 5:43:09PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I have 210 BBC Sherlock Holmes episodes ranging from 1945 to 2010. Would we consider the 65 that are prior to 1962 OTR? Or is the BBC just BBC? And I have 47 Springbok episodes from the 80’s. You can’t not like Springbok (Squad Cars!) but you just can’t call it OTR. I kind-of think OTR is an American thing. Fun to talk about.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:26 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Scott, I have dozens of BBC dramas on cassettes, and most of the ones I have listened to are very good.  I do not think that any are in the OTRR Library collection, probably because most people do not consider them to be old-time radio.

 

Thank you for your comments about The Little Things in Life.  It seems that you might think it qualifies as an old-time radio series.

 

Larry

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From: "Scott Galley via groups.io"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 9:54:19AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Although not American, the BBC never stopped doing drama. The CBC continued into the 1990's at least, and South Africa and Australia were doing OTR type shows into the 1980's. A treasure trove is out there, waiting to be listened to. More drama, adventure and comedy than anyone could listen to in two lifetimes. And most, if not all of it top quality productions.

S


--
Larry Maupin


--
Larry Maupin


Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Michael Hingson
 

Scott,

 

Might you be willing to share Springbok?

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Scott Mahan
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 2:43 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

I have 210 BBC Sherlock Holmes episodes ranging from 1945 to 2010. Would we consider the 65 that are prior to 1962 OTR? Or is the BBC just BBC? And I have 47 Springbok episodes from the 80’s. You can’t not like Springbok (Squad Cars!) but you just can’t call it OTR. I kind-of think OTR is an American thing. Fun to talk about.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:26 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Scott, I have dozens of BBC dramas on cassettes, and most of the ones I have listened to are very good.  I do not think that any are in the OTRR Library collection, probably because most people do not consider them to be old-time radio.

 

Thank you for your comments about The Little Things in Life.  It seems that you might think it qualifies as an old-time radio series.

 

Larry

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From: "Scott Galley via groups.io"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 9:54:19AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Although not American, the BBC never stopped doing drama. The CBC continued into the 1990's at least, and South Africa and Australia were doing OTR type shows into the 1980's. A treasure trove is out there, waiting to be listened to. More drama, adventure and comedy than anyone could listen to in two lifetimes. And most, if not all of it top quality productions.

S


--
Larry Maupin


Re: Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Michael Hingson
 

Agreed.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 2:44 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

 

That's funny!  Having a short memory I think is really helpful when it comes to television, especially if you watch reruns of sitcoms.

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 5:14:46PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

If it’s a rerun I see on air for more than two years it’s old enough for me, especially if it still continues to rerun. 😊

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 2:10 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

 

If it's at least half a century old, that's old enough for me.

 

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 12:33:04PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Is it really all in a name? I too like Ryan’s idea, but in one sense, isn’t it all OTR today? SPERDVAC does not directly say only shows before 1962 are OTR, so far as I know. It’s all radio and still, as Fred Allen would point out, better than that new medium television…

 

By the way, does anyone have an interview or radio show where Fred Allen made that comment? I think the wording was “they call television the new medium because that’s as good as it is going to get”. Exact or not, what a true comment.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:25 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

 

Ryan, I have been online for three hours this morning, and I always reply to any message directed to me as a courtesy and an acknowledgement of how much I value every member's opinion, which is why I have posted so many messages today.

 

But this will be the last one for several hours.  I would just like to say that I think your idea is great!

 

Larry

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From: "Ryan Ellett via groups.io"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 12:03:45PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

One interesting aspect of this conversation is that for us today, the shows from the 1970s are older (40-50 years) than most OTR was to hobbyists in the 1970s when a lot of it was 20-30 years old, 40 years tops. Maybe we can call the 1970s-era revival material the Silver Age of radio drama. 

Ryan

 

 

 

The Old Time Radio Researchers

"Saving the Past for the Future"

 

 

 

 

On Friday, January 8, 2021, 10:53:10 AM CST, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Brian,

 

I agree with your comments, and anything that has the characteristics of old-time radio is always interesting to me.  I will probably get an episode or two of each of the four shows and listen to them to find out how much they sound like old-time radio.  

 

Larry

 


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Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Michael Hingson
 

Someone told me earlier today that Nostradamus predicts a major earthquake in California, or on our West Coast this year. Hope not.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 3:05 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Yes, probably by 2071 Phil Hendrie and Howard Stern will be considered old-time radio.  I hope Nostradamus isn't predicting that the world will end this year.  I would like to be able to see at least one more season of Killing Eve.

 

Larry

 

 

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 4:45:33PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Sounds good. Besides, Radio drama will certainly continue. The result will be that people on this list will revisit the definition. I’d love to be here and contribute in 2071 if Nostradamus and his predictions allow.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:37 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Michael.  I will probably just draw the line at 1962 as far as referring to old-time radio series in the article that were aired prior to the 1965 revival, but I think I have heard an episode or two of Alien Worlds and liked it.

 

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 3:02:02PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Also, even though it started later you have NPR and Star Wars. There also is always Alien Worlds and other similar shows.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Walden Hughes
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 11:33 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

You still had a lot of day time radio going on.  Arthur godfrey was still on the air to 4-30-72.  The breakfast Club up to the end of 1968.  Art Linkletter  House Party was on in to the late 1960s.  How do you count NBC Monitor up to 1975.  Theater five in 1964,  Heart Beat Theater in to 1985.     You had the six month runs of day time soaps in the 1970s includeing Peg Lynch show.     Big John show No school in to 1982 on family radio.  UnShackle started   in 1950 and still on today.   

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 9:59 AM
To: 'main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io' <main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io>
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

A number of fellow researchers have contributed important background information for the article I intend to submit to Ryan which will be entitled :"The 1965 Revival of Old-Time Radio."  I have started composing the first draft, and would like to ask the following questions of our sterling group of scholars, several of whom will be given credit in the body of the article:

 

1. Is it now the general consensus that the final year of old-time radio was 1962, not 1960?  If so, do you think any other series except Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar should be mentioned as having broadcast their final episode in 1962?

 

2. Does anyone know where radio station KEZU was located?

 

3. Brian Kavanaugh writes that there were radio stations in Glen Falls, New York and Rapid City, South Dakota that aired Big Sister and Pepper Young's Family in 1965.  I would like to know from Brian or anyone else the call letters of those stations.

 

4. I do not see in my notes the name and call letters and log of the radio station that aired the two soap operas during the evening.  Will the person who contributed that fact please resend it, including the time that each program was aired (I think it was 8:30 and 8:45)?

 

5. If anyone can locate newspaper logs that show broadcast times of the other old-time radio programs that were part of the 1965 revival (The Fat Man, Dear Dorothea Dix and Hollywood Talking) I would like to include those in the article.

 

I do think that the logs several members have contributed will make great visuals in the article.  Thanks again to Ryan Ellett, Randy Watts, Bob Pederson, Jim Jones, Joe Webb, Rick Davenport and others who have contributed such a wealth of material to be incorporated into the article.

 

If you have an answer to any of the above questions, just post it here or send it to me personally if you would prefer.

 

Larry


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Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Brian Kavanaugh
 

The Philip Marlowe maintained set has BBC episodes in it. There may be others.


On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 4:58 PM Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:
Scott, Springbok sounds interesting, and I have never heard of it before.  As for the BBC Sherlock Holmes episodes prior to 1962, I don't know.  I think the OTRR Library has some South African and some Australian programs from the old-time radio era, but I have not noticed anything from the BBC, Radio Canada, Radio France, Deutsche Welle or Radio Japan.  Someone else can perhaps better explain the principle of inclusion and exclusion followed by the library in determining what to add to the collection.

Larry

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From: "Scott Mahan"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 5:43:09PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I have 210 BBC Sherlock Holmes episodes ranging from 1945 to 2010. Would we consider the 65 that are prior to 1962 OTR? Or is the BBC just BBC? And I have 47 Springbok episodes from the 80’s. You can’t not like Springbok (Squad Cars!) but you just can’t call it OTR. I kind-of think OTR is an American thing. Fun to talk about.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:26 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Scott, I have dozens of BBC dramas on cassettes, and most of the ones I have listened to are very good.  I do not think that any are in the OTRR Library collection, probably because most people do not consider them to be old-time radio.

 

Thank you for your comments about The Little Things in Life.  It seems that you might think it qualifies as an old-time radio series.

 

Larry

-----------------------------------------

From: "Scott Galley via groups.io"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 9:54:19AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Although not American, the BBC never stopped doing drama. The CBC continued into the 1990's at least, and South Africa and Australia were doing OTR type shows into the 1980's. A treasure trove is out there, waiting to be listened to. More drama, adventure and comedy than anyone could listen to in two lifetimes. And most, if not all of it top quality productions.

S


--
Larry Maupin


--
Larry Maupin


Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Larry Maupin
 

Yes, probably by 2071 Phil Hendrie and Howard Stern will be considered old-time radio.  I hope Nostradamus isn't predicting that the world will end this year.  I would like to be able to see at least one more season of Killing Eve.

Larry



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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 4:45:33PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Sounds good. Besides, Radio drama will certainly continue. The result will be that people on this list will revisit the definition. I’d love to be here and contribute in 2071 if Nostradamus and his predictions allow.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:37 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Michael.  I will probably just draw the line at 1962 as far as referring to old-time radio series in the article that were aired prior to the 1965 revival, but I think I have heard an episode or two of Alien Worlds and liked it.

 

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 3:02:02PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Also, even though it started later you have NPR and Star Wars. There also is always Alien Worlds and other similar shows.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Walden Hughes
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 11:33 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

You still had a lot of day time radio going on.  Arthur godfrey was still on the air to 4-30-72.  The breakfast Club up to the end of 1968.  Art Linkletter  House Party was on in to the late 1960s.  How do you count NBC Monitor up to 1975.  Theater five in 1964,  Heart Beat Theater in to 1985.     You had the six month runs of day time soaps in the 1970s includeing Peg Lynch show.     Big John show No school in to 1982 on family radio.  UnShackle started   in 1950 and still on today.   

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 9:59 AM
To: 'main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io' <main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io>
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

A number of fellow researchers have contributed important background information for the article I intend to submit to Ryan which will be entitled :"The 1965 Revival of Old-Time Radio."  I have started composing the first draft, and would like to ask the following questions of our sterling group of scholars, several of whom will be given credit in the body of the article:

 

1. Is it now the general consensus that the final year of old-time radio was 1962, not 1960?  If so, do you think any other series except Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar should be mentioned as having broadcast their final episode in 1962?

 

2. Does anyone know where radio station KEZU was located?

 

3. Brian Kavanaugh writes that there were radio stations in Glen Falls, New York and Rapid City, South Dakota that aired Big Sister and Pepper Young's Family in 1965.  I would like to know from Brian or anyone else the call letters of those stations.

 

4. I do not see in my notes the name and call letters and log of the radio station that aired the two soap operas during the evening.  Will the person who contributed that fact please resend it, including the time that each program was aired (I think it was 8:30 and 8:45)?

 

5. If anyone can locate newspaper logs that show broadcast times of the other old-time radio programs that were part of the 1965 revival (The Fat Man, Dear Dorothea Dix and Hollywood Talking) I would like to include those in the article.

 

I do think that the logs several members have contributed will make great visuals in the article.  Thanks again to Ryan Ellett, Randy Watts, Bob Pederson, Jim Jones, Joe Webb, Rick Davenport and others who have contributed such a wealth of material to be incorporated into the article.

 

If you have an answer to any of the above questions, just post it here or send it to me personally if you would prefer.

 

Larry


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Larry Maupin


--
Larry Maupin


Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Larry Maupin
 

Scott, Springbok sounds interesting, and I have never heard of it before.  As for the BBC Sherlock Holmes episodes prior to 1962, I don't know.  I think the OTRR Library has some South African and some Australian programs from the old-time radio era, but I have not noticed anything from the BBC, Radio Canada, Radio France, Deutsche Welle or Radio Japan.  Someone else can perhaps better explain the principle of inclusion and exclusion followed by the library in determining what to add to the collection.

Larry

-----------------------------------------

From: "Scott Mahan"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 5:43:09PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I have 210 BBC Sherlock Holmes episodes ranging from 1945 to 2010. Would we consider the 65 that are prior to 1962 OTR? Or is the BBC just BBC? And I have 47 Springbok episodes from the 80’s. You can’t not like Springbok (Squad Cars!) but you just can’t call it OTR. I kind-of think OTR is an American thing. Fun to talk about.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:26 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Scott, I have dozens of BBC dramas on cassettes, and most of the ones I have listened to are very good.  I do not think that any are in the OTRR Library collection, probably because most people do not consider them to be old-time radio.

 

Thank you for your comments about The Little Things in Life.  It seems that you might think it qualifies as an old-time radio series.

 

Larry

-----------------------------------------

From: "Scott Galley via groups.io"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 9:54:19AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Although not American, the BBC never stopped doing drama. The CBC continued into the 1990's at least, and South Africa and Australia were doing OTR type shows into the 1980's. A treasure trove is out there, waiting to be listened to. More drama, adventure and comedy than anyone could listen to in two lifetimes. And most, if not all of it top quality productions.

S


--
Larry Maupin


--
Larry Maupin


Re: Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Larry Maupin
 

That's funny!  Having a short memory I think is really helpful when it comes to television, especially if you watch reruns of sitcoms.

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 5:14:46PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

If it’s a rerun I see on air for more than two years it’s old enough for me, especially if it still continues to rerun. 😊

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 2:10 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

 

If it's at least half a century old, that's old enough for me.

 

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 12:33:04PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Is it really all in a name? I too like Ryan’s idea, but in one sense, isn’t it all OTR today? SPERDVAC does not directly say only shows before 1962 are OTR, so far as I know. It’s all radio and still, as Fred Allen would point out, better than that new medium television…

 

By the way, does anyone have an interview or radio show where Fred Allen made that comment? I think the wording was “they call television the new medium because that’s as good as it is going to get”. Exact or not, what a true comment.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:25 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

 

Ryan, I have been online for three hours this morning, and I always reply to any message directed to me as a courtesy and an acknowledgement of how much I value every member's opinion, which is why I have posted so many messages today.

 

But this will be the last one for several hours.  I would just like to say that I think your idea is great!

 

Larry

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From: "Ryan Ellett via groups.io"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 12:03:45PM
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One interesting aspect of this conversation is that for us today, the shows from the 1970s are older (40-50 years) than most OTR was to hobbyists in the 1970s when a lot of it was 20-30 years old, 40 years tops. Maybe we can call the 1970s-era revival material the Silver Age of radio drama. 

Ryan

 

 

 

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On Friday, January 8, 2021, 10:53:10 AM CST, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Brian,

 

I agree with your comments, and anything that has the characteristics of old-time radio is always interesting to me.  I will probably get an episode or two of each of the four shows and listen to them to find out how much they sound like old-time radio.  

 

Larry

 


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Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Scott Mahan
 

I have 210 BBC Sherlock Holmes episodes ranging from 1945 to 2010. Would we consider the 65 that are prior to 1962 OTR? Or is the BBC just BBC? And I have 47 Springbok episodes from the 80’s. You can’t not like Springbok (Squad Cars!) but you just can’t call it OTR. I kind-of think OTR is an American thing. Fun to talk about.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:26 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Scott, I have dozens of BBC dramas on cassettes, and most of the ones I have listened to are very good.  I do not think that any are in the OTRR Library collection, probably because most people do not consider them to be old-time radio.

 

Thank you for your comments about The Little Things in Life.  It seems that you might think it qualifies as an old-time radio series.

 

Larry

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From: "Scott Galley via groups.io"
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Sent: Friday January 8 2021 9:54:19AM
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Although not American, the BBC never stopped doing drama. The CBC continued into the 1990's at least, and South Africa and Australia were doing OTR type shows into the 1980's. A treasure trove is out there, waiting to be listened to. More drama, adventure and comedy than anyone could listen to in two lifetimes. And most, if not all of it top quality productions.

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Larry Maupin
 

So do I Larry.  I do remember reading somewhere that by about that time the networks were beginning to lose control of their own stations, which had begun to find local advertising a much more lucrative source of revenue than the programming they were getting from the networks.  But I think all of the soap operas that lasted until November of 1960 were still being carried by CBS affiliates, and most if not all still has sponsors.  Today I have heard that the most highly paid employees of radio stations are the managers and the ad salesmen, perhaps not necessarily in that order.

Larry

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From: "Larry Gassman"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
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Sent: Friday January 8 2021 4:31:59PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I believe most of the CBS stations broadcast those last shows.

Larry

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Hingson
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 1:20 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Larry,

 

I bet KCBS in San Francisco also broadcasted the last shows. I don’t know this for sure, but every time I tuned into KCBS once atmosphere skip allowed me to hear it from Southern California, I heard the same shows as I heard on KNX.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 6:19 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Michael.  KNX is the only radio station anyone has mentioned that may have broadcast the final episodes of Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar and Suspense.  I will add it to the article.

 

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
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Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 10:36:00PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I listened to all of these on KNX in Los Angeles. My memory is that YTJD came on at 5PM, Suspense at 5:30, HGWT at 6PM and Gunsmoke at 6:30.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 5:29 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Scott.  I just looked at the article using your link, and it really is interesting.  Apparently Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar aired at 6pm on at least some stations.  I think we got it at about 7:30 or 8 where I lived.  It confirms that both YTJD and Suspense aired their final episodes on the same night (September 30, 1962).  I would cite it in the article if it could be sourced beyond its appearance on the OTRCAT website.  Anonymous articles, as I think you would agree, are more problematical to cite than those that can be sourced to a specific newspaper or magazine.

 

Larry 

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From: "Scott Mahan"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 7:50:38PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I suspect you have a site blocker problem with your virus protection software. Annoying stuff, always needing to be tuned.

But, if you can’t fix it, the article is attached.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:19 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Rick,

Thank you for the link, and I would like to read the article.  The link leads to a message that reads "Sorry, OTRCAT.com is currently unavailable."  This is what I have seen for probably a year now when trying to access the site because a remarkably large number of people have posted messages indicating that it is still an active old-time radio dealer.  I think that the owner either died or went out of business without closing the website.  If you were able to read the article using that link, then maybe I have just been blocked from the site for some reason without knowing it.

 

Larry  

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From: "Richard Davenport"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 2:30:22PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Larry,

OTR Cat has an article on the subject...Here is the link

 

 

Labor ipse voluptas

 

 

On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 1:15:35 PM CST, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

 

 

Thank you John and Larry.  I just finished curating a collection of final episodes of old-time radio series, and I also have the last episode of Gunsmoke as June 19, 1961 and Have Gun, Will Travel as November 27, 1960.  I did, however, overlook Suspense and will mention it in the article along with Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.

 

Larry

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From: "Larry Gassman"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 1:25:03PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Actually, the last two shows to air episodes on September 30, 1962 were Suspense and Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.

Have Gun, Will Travel left the air in 1960 and Gunsmoke in June of 1961.

Larry

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Nicholson
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:18 AM
To: main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

I only know #1. In addition to Johnny Dollar, Suspense, Have Gun Will Travel, and Gunsmoke all aired their last episodes in 1962.

 

John

 

On Jan 7, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

A number of fellow researchers have contributed important background information for the article I intend to submit to Ryan which will be entitled :"The 1965 Revival of Old-Time Radio."  I have started composing the first draft, and would like to ask the following questions of our sterling group of scholars, several of whom will be given credit in the body of the article:

 

1. Is it now the general consensus that the final year of old-time radio was 1962, not 1960?  If so, do you think any other series except Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar should be mentioned as having broadcast their final episode in 1962?

 

2. Does anyone know where radio station KEZU was located?

 

3. Brian Kavanaugh writes that there were radio stations in Glen Falls, New York and Rapid City, South Dakota that aired Big Sister and Pepper Young's Family in 1965.  I would like to know from Brian or anyone else the call letters of those stations.

 

4. I do not see in my notes the name and call letters and log of the radio station that aired the two soap operas during the evening.  Will the person who contributed that fact please resend it, including the time that each program was aired (I think it was 8:30 and 8:45)?

 

5. If anyone can locate newspaper logs that show broadcast times of the other old-time radio programs that were part of the 1965 revival (The Fat Man, Dear Dorothea Dix and Hollywood Talking) I would like to include those in the article.

 

I do think that the logs several members have contributed will make great visuals in the article.  Thanks again to Ryan Ellett, Randy Watts, Bob Pederson, Jim Jones, Joe Webb, Rick Davenport and others who have contributed such a wealth of material to be incorporated into the article.

 

If you have an answer to any of the above questions, just post it here or send it to me personally if you would prefer.

 

Larry


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Larry Maupin
 

Thank you Michael.  It makes sense that if they were both CBS affiliates they may both have aired the shows.  It's surprising to me how many of the old-time radio episodes in my collection were recorded from San Francisco radio stations.

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 4:19:56PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Larry,

 

I bet KCBS in San Francisco also broadcasted the last shows. I don’t know this for sure, but every time I tuned into KCBS once atmosphere skip allowed me to hear it from Southern California, I heard the same shows as I heard on KNX.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 6:19 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Michael.  KNX is the only radio station anyone has mentioned that may have broadcast the final episodes of Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar and Suspense.  I will add it to the article.

 

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
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Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 10:36:00PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I listened to all of these on KNX in Los Angeles. My memory is that YTJD came on at 5PM, Suspense at 5:30, HGWT at 6PM and Gunsmoke at 6:30.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 5:29 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Scott.  I just looked at the article using your link, and it really is interesting.  Apparently Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar aired at 6pm on at least some stations.  I think we got it at about 7:30 or 8 where I lived.  It confirms that both YTJD and Suspense aired their final episodes on the same night (September 30, 1962).  I would cite it in the article if it could be sourced beyond its appearance on the OTRCAT website.  Anonymous articles, as I think you would agree, are more problematical to cite than those that can be sourced to a specific newspaper or magazine.

 

Larry 

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From: "Scott Mahan"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 7:50:38PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I suspect you have a site blocker problem with your virus protection software. Annoying stuff, always needing to be tuned.

But, if you can’t fix it, the article is attached.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:19 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Rick,

Thank you for the link, and I would like to read the article.  The link leads to a message that reads "Sorry, OTRCAT.com is currently unavailable."  This is what I have seen for probably a year now when trying to access the site because a remarkably large number of people have posted messages indicating that it is still an active old-time radio dealer.  I think that the owner either died or went out of business without closing the website.  If you were able to read the article using that link, then maybe I have just been blocked from the site for some reason without knowing it.

 

Larry  

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From: "Richard Davenport"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 2:30:22PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Larry,

OTR Cat has an article on the subject...Here is the link

 

 

Labor ipse voluptas

 

 

On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 1:15:35 PM CST, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

 

 

Thank you John and Larry.  I just finished curating a collection of final episodes of old-time radio series, and I also have the last episode of Gunsmoke as June 19, 1961 and Have Gun, Will Travel as November 27, 1960.  I did, however, overlook Suspense and will mention it in the article along with Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.

 

Larry

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From: "Larry Gassman"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 1:25:03PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Actually, the last two shows to air episodes on September 30, 1962 were Suspense and Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.

Have Gun, Will Travel left the air in 1960 and Gunsmoke in June of 1961.

Larry

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Nicholson
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:18 AM
To: main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

I only know #1. In addition to Johnny Dollar, Suspense, Have Gun Will Travel, and Gunsmoke all aired their last episodes in 1962.

 

John

 

On Jan 7, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

A number of fellow researchers have contributed important background information for the article I intend to submit to Ryan which will be entitled :"The 1965 Revival of Old-Time Radio."  I have started composing the first draft, and would like to ask the following questions of our sterling group of scholars, several of whom will be given credit in the body of the article:

 

1. Is it now the general consensus that the final year of old-time radio was 1962, not 1960?  If so, do you think any other series except Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar should be mentioned as having broadcast their final episode in 1962?

 

2. Does anyone know where radio station KEZU was located?

 

3. Brian Kavanaugh writes that there were radio stations in Glen Falls, New York and Rapid City, South Dakota that aired Big Sister and Pepper Young's Family in 1965.  I would like to know from Brian or anyone else the call letters of those stations.

 

4. I do not see in my notes the name and call letters and log of the radio station that aired the two soap operas during the evening.  Will the person who contributed that fact please resend it, including the time that each program was aired (I think it was 8:30 and 8:45)?

 

5. If anyone can locate newspaper logs that show broadcast times of the other old-time radio programs that were part of the 1965 revival (The Fat Man, Dear Dorothea Dix and Hollywood Talking) I would like to include those in the article.

 

I do think that the logs several members have contributed will make great visuals in the article.  Thanks again to Ryan Ellett, Randy Watts, Bob Pederson, Jim Jones, Joe Webb, Rick Davenport and others who have contributed such a wealth of material to be incorporated into the article.

 

If you have an answer to any of the above questions, just post it here or send it to me personally if you would prefer.

 

Larry


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Re: Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Michael Hingson
 

If it’s a rerun I see on air for more than two years it’s old enough for me, especially if it still continues to rerun. 😊

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 2:10 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

 

If it's at least half a century old, that's old enough for me.

 

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 12:33:04PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Is it really all in a name? I too like Ryan’s idea, but in one sense, isn’t it all OTR today? SPERDVAC does not directly say only shows before 1962 are OTR, so far as I know. It’s all radio and still, as Fred Allen would point out, better than that new medium television…

 

By the way, does anyone have an interview or radio show where Fred Allen made that comment? I think the wording was “they call television the new medium because that’s as good as it is going to get”. Exact or not, what a true comment.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:25 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

 

Ryan, I have been online for three hours this morning, and I always reply to any message directed to me as a courtesy and an acknowledgement of how much I value every member's opinion, which is why I have posted so many messages today.

 

But this will be the last one for several hours.  I would just like to say that I think your idea is great!

 

Larry

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From: "Ryan Ellett via groups.io"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 12:03:45PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

One interesting aspect of this conversation is that for us today, the shows from the 1970s are older (40-50 years) than most OTR was to hobbyists in the 1970s when a lot of it was 20-30 years old, 40 years tops. Maybe we can call the 1970s-era revival material the Silver Age of radio drama. 

Ryan

 

 

 

The Old Time Radio Researchers

"Saving the Past for the Future"

 

 

 

 

On Friday, January 8, 2021, 10:53:10 AM CST, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Brian,

 

I agree with your comments, and anything that has the characteristics of old-time radio is always interesting to me.  I will probably get an episode or two of each of the four shows and listen to them to find out how much they sound like old-time radio.  

 

Larry

 


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Re: Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Larry Maupin
 

That's a good history of the series Randy.  If we use Ryan's suggestion I think The Little Things in Life definitely belongs in The Silver Age of Radio.

Larry

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From: "Randy Watts via groups.io"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 12:38:56PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

One of those four shows, Peg Lynch's THE LITTLE THINGS IN LIFE, was a "golden age" revival. Lynch had been doing variations on that series, originally titled ETHEL AND ALBERT, since the early 1940s, on both radio and 1950s television. It can best be described as a "light domestic comedy." It ran on CBS daytime in a quarter-hour format from 1957 to 1960 as THE COUPLE NEXT DOOR. A lot of those CBS shows survive in nice sound and I enjoy listening to them.  Lynch created the series, wrote it, starred in it, and owned it. ETHEL AND ALBERT was revived in the mid-1960s as a feature on NBC Radio's MONITOR and in the early 1970s on NPR's EARPLAY before brought back for a final time as THE LITTLE THINGS IN LIFE in 1975-76.

Randy

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On Friday, January 8, 2021, 10:53:10 AM CST, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:


Hi Brian,

I agree with your comments, and anything that has the characteristics of old-time radio is always interesting to me.  I will probably get an episode or two of each of the four shows and listen to them to find out how much they sound like old-time radio.  

Larry

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From: "BrianWest2 via groups.io"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 10:42:50AM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows


Hi Larry,

To me Old Time Radio means the original continuing shows that ended in 1962 (I think). I would think these four shows and CBSRMT are an attempt of OTR Revival. However, I've been accused more than once of overthinking things and would not argue with these newer shows as OTR.

Brian

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From: Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...>
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jan 8, 2021 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Thank you Walden.  The link you posted in an earlier message shows the four programs that were broadcast in 1975 were The Faces of Love, Author's Studio, The Little Things in Life and To Have N Hold.  I will check Ted's website to find the episodes that he has.  They should definitely provide enough material for an article, and the only thing I would like to know before writing one would be whether other members of this group consider the four series to qualify as old-time radio programs.  CBS Radio Mystery Theater was going strong in 1975 and I think almost everybody thinks of it as an old-time radio series.

If anyone has an opinion about the four series listed above, it would be interesting to know where you stand on the question of whether they should be considered old-time radio programs.

Larry 

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From: "Walden Hughes"
To: OldTimeRadioResearchers@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 4:39:34AM
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Hi Larry,
 
I was rereading your email.  Ted has at least 40 hours of this series starting on 8-4-75.  That was years ago.  He might have more now.  Take care,
 
Walden

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Re: Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Larry Maupin
 

If it's at least half a century old, that's old enough for me.

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 12:33:04PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

Is it really all in a name? I too like Ryan’s idea, but in one sense, isn’t it all OTR today? SPERDVAC does not directly say only shows before 1962 are OTR, so far as I know. It’s all radio and still, as Fred Allen would point out, better than that new medium television…

 

By the way, does anyone have an interview or radio show where Fred Allen made that comment? I think the wording was “they call television the new medium because that’s as good as it is going to get”. Exact or not, what a true comment.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:25 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

 

Ryan, I have been online for three hours this morning, and I always reply to any message directed to me as a courtesy and an acknowledgement of how much I value every member's opinion, which is why I have posted so many messages today.

 

But this will be the last one for several hours.  I would just like to say that I think your idea is great!

 

Larry

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From: "Ryan Ellett via groups.io"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Friday January 8 2021 12:03:45PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

One interesting aspect of this conversation is that for us today, the shows from the 1970s are older (40-50 years) than most OTR was to hobbyists in the 1970s when a lot of it was 20-30 years old, 40 years tops. Maybe we can call the 1970s-era revival material the Silver Age of radio drama. 

Ryan

 

 

 

The Old Time Radio Researchers

"Saving the Past for the Future"

 

 

 

 

On Friday, January 8, 2021, 10:53:10 AM CST, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Brian,

 

I agree with your comments, and anything that has the characteristics of old-time radio is always interesting to me.  I will probably get an episode or two of each of the four shows and listen to them to find out how much they sound like old-time radio.  

 

Larry

 


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Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Michael Hingson
 

That is my thought as well.

 

 

M.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Gassman
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 1:32 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

I believe most of the CBS stations broadcast those last shows.

Larry

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Hingson
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 1:20 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Larry,

 

I bet KCBS in San Francisco also broadcasted the last shows. I don’t know this for sure, but every time I tuned into KCBS once atmosphere skip allowed me to hear it from Southern California, I heard the same shows as I heard on KNX.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 6:19 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Michael.  KNX is the only radio station anyone has mentioned that may have broadcast the final episodes of Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar and Suspense.  I will add it to the article.

 

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 10:36:00PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I listened to all of these on KNX in Los Angeles. My memory is that YTJD came on at 5PM, Suspense at 5:30, HGWT at 6PM and Gunsmoke at 6:30.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 5:29 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Scott.  I just looked at the article using your link, and it really is interesting.  Apparently Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar aired at 6pm on at least some stations.  I think we got it at about 7:30 or 8 where I lived.  It confirms that both YTJD and Suspense aired their final episodes on the same night (September 30, 1962).  I would cite it in the article if it could be sourced beyond its appearance on the OTRCAT website.  Anonymous articles, as I think you would agree, are more problematical to cite than those that can be sourced to a specific newspaper or magazine.

 

Larry 

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From: "Scott Mahan"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 7:50:38PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I suspect you have a site blocker problem with your virus protection software. Annoying stuff, always needing to be tuned.

But, if you can’t fix it, the article is attached.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:19 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Rick,

Thank you for the link, and I would like to read the article.  The link leads to a message that reads "Sorry, OTRCAT.com is currently unavailable."  This is what I have seen for probably a year now when trying to access the site because a remarkably large number of people have posted messages indicating that it is still an active old-time radio dealer.  I think that the owner either died or went out of business without closing the website.  If you were able to read the article using that link, then maybe I have just been blocked from the site for some reason without knowing it.

 

Larry  

-----------------------------------------

From: "Richard Davenport"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 2:30:22PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Larry,

OTR Cat has an article on the subject...Here is the link

 

 

Labor ipse voluptas

 

 

On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 1:15:35 PM CST, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

 

 

Thank you John and Larry.  I just finished curating a collection of final episodes of old-time radio series, and I also have the last episode of Gunsmoke as June 19, 1961 and Have Gun, Will Travel as November 27, 1960.  I did, however, overlook Suspense and will mention it in the article along with Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.

 

Larry

-----------------------------------------

From: "Larry Gassman"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 1:25:03PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Actually, the last two shows to air episodes on September 30, 1962 were Suspense and Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.

Have Gun, Will Travel left the air in 1960 and Gunsmoke in June of 1961.

Larry

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Nicholson
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:18 AM
To: main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

I only know #1. In addition to Johnny Dollar, Suspense, Have Gun Will Travel, and Gunsmoke all aired their last episodes in 1962.

 

John

 

On Jan 7, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

A number of fellow researchers have contributed important background information for the article I intend to submit to Ryan which will be entitled :"The 1965 Revival of Old-Time Radio."  I have started composing the first draft, and would like to ask the following questions of our sterling group of scholars, several of whom will be given credit in the body of the article:

 

1. Is it now the general consensus that the final year of old-time radio was 1962, not 1960?  If so, do you think any other series except Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar should be mentioned as having broadcast their final episode in 1962?

 

2. Does anyone know where radio station KEZU was located?

 

3. Brian Kavanaugh writes that there were radio stations in Glen Falls, New York and Rapid City, South Dakota that aired Big Sister and Pepper Young's Family in 1965.  I would like to know from Brian or anyone else the call letters of those stations.

 

4. I do not see in my notes the name and call letters and log of the radio station that aired the two soap operas during the evening.  Will the person who contributed that fact please resend it, including the time that each program was aired (I think it was 8:30 and 8:45)?

 

5. If anyone can locate newspaper logs that show broadcast times of the other old-time radio programs that were part of the 1965 revival (The Fat Man, Dear Dorothea Dix and Hollywood Talking) I would like to include those in the article.

 

I do think that the logs several members have contributed will make great visuals in the article.  Thanks again to Ryan Ellett, Randy Watts, Bob Pederson, Jim Jones, Joe Webb, Rick Davenport and others who have contributed such a wealth of material to be incorporated into the article.

 

If you have an answer to any of the above questions, just post it here or send it to me personally if you would prefer.

 

Larry


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Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Michael Hingson
 

Sounds good. Besides, Radio drama will certainly continue. The result will be that people on this list will revisit the definition. I’d love to be here and contribute in 2071 if Nostradamus and his predictions allow.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 4:37 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Michael.  I will probably just draw the line at 1962 as far as referring to old-time radio series in the article that were aired prior to the 1965 revival, but I think I have heard an episode or two of Alien Worlds and liked it.

 

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 3:02:02PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Also, even though it started later you have NPR and Star Wars. There also is always Alien Worlds and other similar shows.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Walden Hughes
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 11:33 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

You still had a lot of day time radio going on.  Arthur godfrey was still on the air to 4-30-72.  The breakfast Club up to the end of 1968.  Art Linkletter  House Party was on in to the late 1960s.  How do you count NBC Monitor up to 1975.  Theater five in 1964,  Heart Beat Theater in to 1985.     You had the six month runs of day time soaps in the 1970s includeing Peg Lynch show.     Big John show No school in to 1982 on family radio.  UnShackle started   in 1950 and still on today.   

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 9:59 AM
To: 'main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io' <main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io>
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

A number of fellow researchers have contributed important background information for the article I intend to submit to Ryan which will be entitled :"The 1965 Revival of Old-Time Radio."  I have started composing the first draft, and would like to ask the following questions of our sterling group of scholars, several of whom will be given credit in the body of the article:

 

1. Is it now the general consensus that the final year of old-time radio was 1962, not 1960?  If so, do you think any other series except Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar should be mentioned as having broadcast their final episode in 1962?

 

2. Does anyone know where radio station KEZU was located?

 

3. Brian Kavanaugh writes that there were radio stations in Glen Falls, New York and Rapid City, South Dakota that aired Big Sister and Pepper Young's Family in 1965.  I would like to know from Brian or anyone else the call letters of those stations.

 

4. I do not see in my notes the name and call letters and log of the radio station that aired the two soap operas during the evening.  Will the person who contributed that fact please resend it, including the time that each program was aired (I think it was 8:30 and 8:45)?

 

5. If anyone can locate newspaper logs that show broadcast times of the other old-time radio programs that were part of the 1965 revival (The Fat Man, Dear Dorothea Dix and Hollywood Talking) I would like to include those in the article.

 

I do think that the logs several members have contributed will make great visuals in the article.  Thanks again to Ryan Ellett, Randy Watts, Bob Pederson, Jim Jones, Joe Webb, Rick Davenport and others who have contributed such a wealth of material to be incorporated into the article.

 

If you have an answer to any of the above questions, just post it here or send it to me personally if you would prefer.

 

Larry


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Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

I believe most of the CBS stations broadcast those last shows.

Larry

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Hingson
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 1:20 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Larry,

 

I bet KCBS in San Francisco also broadcasted the last shows. I don’t know this for sure, but every time I tuned into KCBS once atmosphere skip allowed me to hear it from Southern California, I heard the same shows as I heard on KNX.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 6:19 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Michael.  KNX is the only radio station anyone has mentioned that may have broadcast the final episodes of Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar and Suspense.  I will add it to the article.

 

Larry

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From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 10:36:00PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I listened to all of these on KNX in Los Angeles. My memory is that YTJD came on at 5PM, Suspense at 5:30, HGWT at 6PM and Gunsmoke at 6:30.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 5:29 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Scott.  I just looked at the article using your link, and it really is interesting.  Apparently Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar aired at 6pm on at least some stations.  I think we got it at about 7:30 or 8 where I lived.  It confirms that both YTJD and Suspense aired their final episodes on the same night (September 30, 1962).  I would cite it in the article if it could be sourced beyond its appearance on the OTRCAT website.  Anonymous articles, as I think you would agree, are more problematical to cite than those that can be sourced to a specific newspaper or magazine.

 

Larry 

-----------------------------------------

From: "Scott Mahan"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 7:50:38PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I suspect you have a site blocker problem with your virus protection software. Annoying stuff, always needing to be tuned.

But, if you can’t fix it, the article is attached.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:19 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Rick,

Thank you for the link, and I would like to read the article.  The link leads to a message that reads "Sorry, OTRCAT.com is currently unavailable."  This is what I have seen for probably a year now when trying to access the site because a remarkably large number of people have posted messages indicating that it is still an active old-time radio dealer.  I think that the owner either died or went out of business without closing the website.  If you were able to read the article using that link, then maybe I have just been blocked from the site for some reason without knowing it.

 

Larry  

-----------------------------------------

From: "Richard Davenport"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 2:30:22PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Larry,

OTR Cat has an article on the subject...Here is the link

 

 

Labor ipse voluptas

 

 

On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 1:15:35 PM CST, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

 

 

Thank you John and Larry.  I just finished curating a collection of final episodes of old-time radio series, and I also have the last episode of Gunsmoke as June 19, 1961 and Have Gun, Will Travel as November 27, 1960.  I did, however, overlook Suspense and will mention it in the article along with Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.

 

Larry

-----------------------------------------

From: "Larry Gassman"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 1:25:03PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Actually, the last two shows to air episodes on September 30, 1962 were Suspense and Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.

Have Gun, Will Travel left the air in 1960 and Gunsmoke in June of 1961.

Larry

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Nicholson
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:18 AM
To: main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

I only know #1. In addition to Johnny Dollar, Suspense, Have Gun Will Travel, and Gunsmoke all aired their last episodes in 1962.

 

John

 

On Jan 7, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

A number of fellow researchers have contributed important background information for the article I intend to submit to Ryan which will be entitled :"The 1965 Revival of Old-Time Radio."  I have started composing the first draft, and would like to ask the following questions of our sterling group of scholars, several of whom will be given credit in the body of the article:

 

1. Is it now the general consensus that the final year of old-time radio was 1962, not 1960?  If so, do you think any other series except Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar should be mentioned as having broadcast their final episode in 1962?

 

2. Does anyone know where radio station KEZU was located?

 

3. Brian Kavanaugh writes that there were radio stations in Glen Falls, New York and Rapid City, South Dakota that aired Big Sister and Pepper Young's Family in 1965.  I would like to know from Brian or anyone else the call letters of those stations.

 

4. I do not see in my notes the name and call letters and log of the radio station that aired the two soap operas during the evening.  Will the person who contributed that fact please resend it, including the time that each program was aired (I think it was 8:30 and 8:45)?

 

5. If anyone can locate newspaper logs that show broadcast times of the other old-time radio programs that were part of the 1965 revival (The Fat Man, Dear Dorothea Dix and Hollywood Talking) I would like to include those in the article.

 

I do think that the logs several members have contributed will make great visuals in the article.  Thanks again to Ryan Ellett, Randy Watts, Bob Pederson, Jim Jones, Joe Webb, Rick Davenport and others who have contributed such a wealth of material to be incorporated into the article.

 

If you have an answer to any of the above questions, just post it here or send it to me personally if you would prefer.

 

Larry


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Re: Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Michael Hingson
 

Larry,

 

I bet KCBS in San Francisco also broadcasted the last shows. I don’t know this for sure, but every time I tuned into KCBS once atmosphere skip allowed me to hear it from Southern California, I heard the same shows as I heard on KNX.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 6:19 AM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Michael.  KNX is the only radio station anyone has mentioned that may have broadcast the final episodes of Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar and Suspense.  I will add it to the article.

 

Larry

-----------------------------------------

From: "Michael Hingson"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 10:36:00PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I listened to all of these on KNX in Los Angeles. My memory is that YTJD came on at 5PM, Suspense at 5:30, HGWT at 6PM and Gunsmoke at 6:30.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 5:29 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Thank you Scott.  I just looked at the article using your link, and it really is interesting.  Apparently Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar aired at 6pm on at least some stations.  I think we got it at about 7:30 or 8 where I lived.  It confirms that both YTJD and Suspense aired their final episodes on the same night (September 30, 1962).  I would cite it in the article if it could be sourced beyond its appearance on the OTRCAT website.  Anonymous articles, as I think you would agree, are more problematical to cite than those that can be sourced to a specific newspaper or magazine.

 

Larry 

-----------------------------------------

From: "Scott Mahan"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 7:50:38PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

I suspect you have a site blocker problem with your virus protection software. Annoying stuff, always needing to be tuned.

But, if you can’t fix it, the article is attached.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Maupin
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:19 PM
To: 'main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io' <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

Rick,

Thank you for the link, and I would like to read the article.  The link leads to a message that reads "Sorry, OTRCAT.com is currently unavailable."  This is what I have seen for probably a year now when trying to access the site because a remarkably large number of people have posted messages indicating that it is still an active old-time radio dealer.  I think that the owner either died or went out of business without closing the website.  If you were able to read the article using that link, then maybe I have just been blocked from the site for some reason without knowing it.

 

Larry  

-----------------------------------------

From: "Richard Davenport"
To: "main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 2:30:22PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Larry,

OTR Cat has an article on the subject...Here is the link

 

 

Labor ipse voluptas

 

 

On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 1:15:35 PM CST, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

 

 

Thank you John and Larry.  I just finished curating a collection of final episodes of old-time radio series, and I also have the last episode of Gunsmoke as June 19, 1961 and Have Gun, Will Travel as November 27, 1960.  I did, however, overlook Suspense and will mention it in the article along with Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.

 

Larry

-----------------------------------------

From: "Larry Gassman"
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 7 2021 1:25:03PM
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

Actually, the last two shows to air episodes on September 30, 1962 were Suspense and Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.

Have Gun, Will Travel left the air in 1960 and Gunsmoke in June of 1961.

Larry

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Nicholson
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:18 AM
To: main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Request for Fact-Checking Assistance

 

I only know #1. In addition to Johnny Dollar, Suspense, Have Gun Will Travel, and Gunsmoke all aired their last episodes in 1962.

 

John

 

On Jan 7, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Larry Maupin <lmaupin@...> wrote:

A number of fellow researchers have contributed important background information for the article I intend to submit to Ryan which will be entitled :"The 1965 Revival of Old-Time Radio."  I have started composing the first draft, and would like to ask the following questions of our sterling group of scholars, several of whom will be given credit in the body of the article:

 

1. Is it now the general consensus that the final year of old-time radio was 1962, not 1960?  If so, do you think any other series except Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar should be mentioned as having broadcast their final episode in 1962?

 

2. Does anyone know where radio station KEZU was located?

 

3. Brian Kavanaugh writes that there were radio stations in Glen Falls, New York and Rapid City, South Dakota that aired Big Sister and Pepper Young's Family in 1965.  I would like to know from Brian or anyone else the call letters of those stations.

 

4. I do not see in my notes the name and call letters and log of the radio station that aired the two soap operas during the evening.  Will the person who contributed that fact please resend it, including the time that each program was aired (I think it was 8:30 and 8:45)?

 

5. If anyone can locate newspaper logs that show broadcast times of the other old-time radio programs that were part of the 1965 revival (The Fat Man, Dear Dorothea Dix and Hollywood Talking) I would like to include those in the article.

 

I do think that the logs several members have contributed will make great visuals in the article.  Thanks again to Ryan Ellett, Randy Watts, Bob Pederson, Jim Jones, Joe Webb, Rick Davenport and others who have contributed such a wealth of material to be incorporated into the article.

 

If you have an answer to any of the above questions, just post it here or send it to me personally if you would prefer.

 

Larry


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Re: Ted is wondering what to do with the four shows from 1975

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

They were broadcast as individual shows or episodes in a series.  At least, that is how I remember hearing them.

Not quite sure what he means.

Larry

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Walden Hughes
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 11:10 AM
To: OldTimeRadioResearchers@groups.io
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted is wondering what to do with the four shows from 1975

 

Hi Everybody,

 

See Ted note.  Any ideas?

 

Take care,

 

Walden

 

 

 

From: Ted Davenport [mailto:tedotr52@...]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:05 AM
To: Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...>
Subject: Re: FW: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

 

Walden,

I have all of them except for 2 or 3 shows. I am wondering how the best way to digitize them as one show (that is how they were broadcast) or to break them up & do each soap separately. Best. Ted

 

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:46 AM Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Walden Hughes
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 1:40 AM
To: OldTimeRadioResearchers@groups.io
Subject: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] Ted has a collection of the 1975 shows

 

Hi Larry,

 

I was rereading your email.  Ted has at least 40 hours of this series starting on 8-4-75.  That was years ago.  He might have more now.  Take care,

 

Walden

 

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