My tiny pirate OTR radio station.
Scott
All, Here's the streaming URL I'm using: https://www.radio.dieselpunkindustries.com/dpiradio.pls |
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Wow, that's cool! I might have to try that. I have an extra Raspberry Pi I'm not using. On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 5:35 PM Scott <hello@...> wrote:
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Alan Kline
Scott: My advice to you, as someone who’s worked in broadcast engineering for 40 years, and for the last 13 as chief operator of a commercial TV station: Turn that transmitter off, right now. Put it back in the box. Tell Amazon you want to return the box because the manufacturer misled you. That transmitter is very, very illegal for your purpose. Take a look at “Part 15 devices” at https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/low-power-radio-general-information#PART15 That page will tell you that Part 15 devices are limited to a range of no more than 200 feet. Your device claims a radius of nearly five times that. The manufacturer is misleading people by citing 47 CFR 15.205 and suggesting that their product is completely legal because the FM broadcast band is not listed as a restricted frequency. It’s legal *only* if you comply with the emission limits in 47 CFR 15.239. This is not a Part 15 device. It’s not clear that the power can be reduced to make it compliant. If you want a nice, simple transmitter that will work well within your own property, look at the CCrane FM transmitter. About the same price, but no worries about violating Part 15. Alan On Mar 24, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Scott <hello@...> wrote:
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Scott
Alan, Thank you for the terrifying info. |
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Alan Kline
I wouldn’t. Under the law (47 USC 301), any kind of radio transmission in any part of the radio spectrum must be authorized either by rule or with a license. Operating in the FM broadcast band is authorized by rule in Part 15, *as long as the transmission is below the specified power output limit*. Anything more than that requires a license. The best rule of thumb is simple: If you can’t find a rule that specifically authorizes what you want to do, it requires a license. The frequency 87.7MHz is not white space, it’s part of television channel 6, which most assuredly requires a license. A lot of us might remember that in the days of analog TV, channel 6 stations would often run promos telling people that they could listen to their station on FM radio at 87.9. That took advantage of the fact that many FM receivers will tune below 88.0. But those stations were licensed. There is no unlicensed Part 15 operation on television channels except for wireless microphones, and the technical parameters for that are specific and complex. So complex that most companies, mine included, find it easier to use licensed wireless mics in different frequency bands. So try the CCrane. I’ve used one. They’re simple to set up, run forever covering your property, and the FCC will leave you alone. Alan On Mar 25, 2022, at 1:27 AM, Scott <hello@...> wrote:
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Scott
Thanks again Alan, I got this model from amazon. |
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Alan Kline
You’re welcome. I think you’ll be happy with it. On Mar 25, 2022, at 10:27 PM, Scott <hello@...> wrote:
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radiojayallen
Here' more info on it and if you want some hot-rodding info on it contact me directly.
https://radiojayallen.com/c-crane-fm-transmitter-2/ Jay |
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Martin Grams posted this to the Facebook group last night. On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, 9:31 AM radiojayallen <radiojayallen@...> wrote: Here' more info on it and if you want some hot-rodding info on it contact me directly. |
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Scott Mahan
I read with interest: I’ve been operating a Ramsey FM25B since 2004 and I think it’s Part 15 compliant, but it was a kit, and I did put it together myself, so you never know. I really only stream stuff so that I can listen to it in the yard (Currently on the Lone Ranger. Up to 1947 so far.) so it’s not on all that much. But I’ve always worried a bit, if only a bit.
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Martin Grams posted this to the Facebook group last night.
On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, 9:31 AM radiojayallen <radiojayallen@...> wrote:
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Wild West Designs
Audionoir is one of the channels that I use with a program that I wrote that uses ffplay. Interesting to see that it has a pirated station component to it. And I have to agree that most of everything is moving to the internet. It's a matter of market share and where to put their efforts. Not to say that they wouldn't, I just have to wonder what are the odds unless the person is really, really, really big or is really putting people off with the broadcast if it's just local and probably a certain demographic neighborhood at that due to how many are actually using terrestrial radio for that to affect? Even sat radio has been around since what early 2000s? Quite possibly a whole generation without AM/FM radio memories that are adults now. I haven't used AM/FM radio in over a decade, perhaps two, if I listened to a radio station (for instance, for a new Imagination Theatre broadcast), I would use the browser based version (especially if it wasn't local to me). Most of the time, I use my NAS and stream throughout the property, but it always goes thru the LAN, so someone would have to be pirated my internet for them to be accosted with what I'm streaming. It just appears to me, that it would a low priority, not to say that it isn't illegal to run a pirated station, just what are the odds without certain things going against you? Evan
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Scott
Here are some photos of my setup. https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb7wc4cLumy/ The transmitter is velcroed to the back. I also built a website https://broadcast.hazzardlabs.com/. That lets me create playlists in chunks or groups that make it easy for me rearrange, save and reuse. The playlist is looping so it will restart every about every 16 hours. Here is another example of a playlist I created from audio at archive.org of K-Mart music. https://broadcast.hazzardlabs.com/attention-k-mart-shoppers/
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25 years ago I was working at an auto auction it was located
outside of town at least 5 miles away from any other buildings. I
made up my own playlist of songs I wanted to listen to at my work
station. I worked in the body shop, this auction had a cafeteria,
a detail shop, a mechanics shop and different offices and a large
parking lot which held three or four hundred cars. I fed the
headphone output of the CD player to a amplifier and then to
speakers. Some of the guys in the shop liked the music I had playing
and asked if I could you run a speaker over so we can hear it. I
had a better idea I had built an FM transmitter from a kit it put
out 1 to 2 Watts. I am a ham radio operator so I'm familiar with
electronic circuits and antennas. So I took it to work and hooked
it up and fed it with my CD player, this was so the other guys in
the shop could could tune their radios and listen to my tunes
without me having to run wires and set up speakers. I found out
this it would cover most of the parking lot and the and most other
departments. I knew this was illegal but figured I was safe I
picked the frequency that would not interfere with any station. I
adjusted the power and the antenna placement so it would fade out
once you went out to the road and drove a little way. This was at
a time that you couldn't buy an FM transmitter from Amazon or
somebody else did put out any kind of power.I was worried about
the FCC but I figured if they did discover it they would just tell
me to stop they didn't and I used that for a couple of years. On 4/6/2022 11:56 AM, Scott wrote:
Here are some photos of my setup. https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb7wc4cLumy/ The transmitter is velcroed to the back. I also built a website https://broadcast.hazzardlabs.com/. That lets me create playlists in chunks or groups that make it easy for me rearrange, save and reuse. The playlist is looping so it will restart every about every 16 hours. Here is another example of a playlist I created from audio at archive.org of K-Mart music. https://broadcast.hazzardlabs.com/attention-k-mart-shoppers/ |
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