is TV in trouble


Walden Hughes
 

Hi Everybody,

 

Neilsen just gave out there report and now the 18 to 34 age group listen to radio more than they watch TV.  TV numbers are falling off the cliffand radio went up 3 percent in this age group.  Take care,

 

Walden 


Ryan Ellett
 

Does the report say, are we talking all television viewing here, or just cable and over the air network? I can't imagine this includes streaming television, but who knows.
Ryan

www.RyanEllett.com


The Old Time Radio Researchers
"Saving the Past for the Future"




On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:14:42 AM CDT, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:


Hi Everybody,

 

Neilsen just gave out there report and now the 18 to 34 age group listen to radio more than they watch TV.  TV numbers are falling off the cliffand radio went up 3 percent in this age group.  Take care,

 

Walden 


Wild West Designs
 

I would say that it would be harder for Nielsen to track streaming, as such, I think that's why companies were trying to go all in, easier to hide viewing numbers this way (that's just me speculating though, so take that for what it's worth).

I don't really see terrestrial radio doing all that much better.  I didn't see the numbers (I never really paid attention to Nielsen period), but even if radio improved 3%, what are the numbers we actually talking about here?


Evan


On 2023-03-14 11:37 AM, Ryan Ellett via groups.io wrote:

Does the report say, are we talking all television viewing here, or just cable and over the air network? I can't imagine this includes streaming television, but who knows.
Ryan
 
www.RyanEllett.com
 
 
The Old Time Radio Researchers
"Saving the Past for the Future"
 
 
 
 
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:14:42 AM CDT, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:
 
 

Hi Everybody,

 

Neilsen just gave out there report and now the 18 to 34 age group listen to radio more than they watch TV.  TV numbers are falling off the cliffand radio went up 3 percent in this age group.  Take care,

 

Walden 


Walden Hughes
 

I think is is only on air numbers.  Does not include streaming,

 

Walden

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Ellett via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 9:37 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

Does the report say, are we talking all television viewing here, or just cable and over the air network? I can't imagine this includes streaming television, but who knows.

Ryan

 

 

 

The Old Time Radio Researchers

"Saving the Past for the Future"

 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:14:42 AM CDT, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Neilsen just gave out there report and now the 18 to 34 age group listen to radio more than they watch TV.  TV numbers are falling off the cliffand radio went up 3 percent in this age group.  Take care,

 

Walden 


Michael Hingson
 

I still think Fred Allen was right about television.

 

 

Best Regards,

 

 

Michael Hingson

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Walden Hughes via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 10:48 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

I think is is only on air numbers.  Does not include streaming,

 

Walden

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Ellett via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 9:37 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

Does the report say, are we talking all television viewing here, or just cable and over the air network? I can't imagine this includes streaming television, but who knows.

Ryan

 

 

 

The Old Time Radio Researchers

"Saving the Past for the Future"

 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:14:42 AM CDT, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Neilsen just gave out there report and now the 18 to 34 age group listen to radio more than they watch TV.  TV numbers are falling off the cliffand radio went up 3 percent in this age group.  Take care,

 

Walden 


Rodney Bowcock
 

I’m 44, so not in the target group, but the only broadcast TV I’ve watched for years has been the morning local news.  Everything else is streaming, or physical media.

Rodney


On Mar 14, 2023, at 1:48 PM, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:



I think is is only on air numbers.  Does not include streaming,

 

Walden

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Ellett via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 9:37 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

Does the report say, are we talking all television viewing here, or just cable and over the air network? I can't imagine this includes streaming television, but who knows.

Ryan

 

 

 

The Old Time Radio Researchers

"Saving the Past for the Future"

 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:14:42 AM CDT, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Neilsen just gave out there report and now the 18 to 34 age group listen to radio more than they watch TV.  TV numbers are falling off the cliffand radio went up 3 percent in this age group.  Take care,

 

Walden 


Scott Mahan
 

Well, besides all the streaming, we DVR a lot of stuff off DirecTV, including broadcast, but we never watch anything live except for sports. And even then, if it’s important, I run it through DVR, start an hour in, fast-forward through the commercials, and try to catch the end just as it really ends. I only watch commercials for fun. A little bit. Sometimes. But that’s the deal. I’m NOT going to watch commercials in my shows, ever. Take my money and make it stop. That’s what it’s all about.

 

So, yes, I wish broadcast TV and its commercials would just go away. Pay for everything. I’d actually subscribe to a commercials channel, just for fun. But I want to do what I want to do. All of the time, every day.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rodney Bowcock
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 12:50 PM
To: main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

I’m 44, so not in the target group, but the only broadcast TV I’ve watched for years has been the morning local news.  Everything else is streaming, or physical media.

 

Rodney



On Mar 14, 2023, at 1:48 PM, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:



I think is is only on air numbers.  Does not include streaming,

 

Walden

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Ellett via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 9:37 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

Does the report say, are we talking all television viewing here, or just cable and over the air network? I can't imagine this includes streaming television, but who knows.

Ryan

 

 

 

The Old Time Radio Researchers

"Saving the Past for the Future"

 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:14:42 AM CDT, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Neilsen just gave out there report and now the 18 to 34 age group listen to radio more than they watch TV.  TV numbers are falling off the cliffand radio went up 3 percent in this age group.  Take care,

 

Walden 


Jim Wood
 

I see I’m not the only curmudgeon there. It’s the same for me, I Tivo whatever I am interested in watching so I can skip the commercials, they are just way to irritating and too often pander to the idiocy of the masses.

 

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Mahan
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 10:36 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

Well, besides all the streaming, we DVR a lot of stuff off DirecTV, including broadcast, but we never watch anything live except for sports. And even then, if it’s important, I run it through DVR, start an hour in, fast-forward through the commercials, and try to catch the end just as it really ends. I only watch commercials for fun. A little bit. Sometimes. But that’s the deal. I’m NOT going to watch commercials in my shows, ever. Take my money and make it stop. That’s what it’s all about.

 

So, yes, I wish broadcast TV and its commercials would just go away. Pay for everything. I’d actually subscribe to a commercials channel, just for fun. But I want to do what I want to do. All of the time, every day.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rodney Bowcock
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 12:50 PM
To: main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

I’m 44, so not in the target group, but the only broadcast TV I’ve watched for years has been the morning local news.  Everything else is streaming, or physical media.

 

Rodney

 

On Mar 14, 2023, at 1:48 PM, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:



I think is is only on air numbers.  Does not include streaming,

 

Walden

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Ellett via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 9:37 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

Does the report say, are we talking all television viewing here, or just cable and over the air network? I can't imagine this includes streaming television, but who knows.

Ryan

 

 

 

The Old Time Radio Researchers

"Saving the Past for the Future"

 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:14:42 AM CDT, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Neilsen just gave out there report and now the 18 to 34 age group listen to radio more than they watch TV.  TV numbers are falling off the cliffand radio went up 3 percent in this age group.  Take care,

 

Walden 


adam
 

I just got Sling TV to watch the World Baseball Classic and will be cancelling it once that’s over. The only thing I watch over the air (as a Proud Idahoan) is our midnight Potato Drop in the city of Boise.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Jim Wood
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 9:55 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

I see I’m not the only curmudgeon there. It’s the same for me, I Tivo whatever I am interested in watching so I can skip the commercials, they are just way to irritating and too often pander to the idiocy of the masses.

 

 

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Mahan
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 10:36 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

Well, besides all the streaming, we DVR a lot of stuff off DirecTV, including broadcast, but we never watch anything live except for sports. And even then, if it’s important, I run it through DVR, start an hour in, fast-forward through the commercials, and try to catch the end just as it really ends. I only watch commercials for fun. A little bit. Sometimes. But that’s the deal. I’m NOT going to watch commercials in my shows, ever. Take my money and make it stop. That’s what it’s all about.

 

So, yes, I wish broadcast TV and its commercials would just go away. Pay for everything. I’d actually subscribe to a commercials channel, just for fun. But I want to do what I want to do. All of the time, every day.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rodney Bowcock
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 12:50 PM
To: main@oldtimeradioresearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

I’m 44, so not in the target group, but the only broadcast TV I’ve watched for years has been the morning local news.  Everything else is streaming, or physical media.

 

Rodney

 

On Mar 14, 2023, at 1:48 PM, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:



I think is is only on air numbers.  Does not include streaming,

 

Walden

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io [mailto:main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Ellett via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 9:37 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] is TV in trouble

 

Does the report say, are we talking all television viewing here, or just cable and over the air network? I can't imagine this includes streaming television, but who knows.

Ryan

 

 

 

The Old Time Radio Researchers

"Saving the Past for the Future"

 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:14:42 AM CDT, Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Everybody,

 

Neilsen just gave out there report and now the 18 to 34 age group listen to radio more than they watch TV.  TV numbers are falling off the cliffand radio went up 3 percent in this age group.  Take care,

 

Walden 

 


John K5MO
 

*....TV numbers are falling off the cliff and radio went up 3 percent....^

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On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 12:14 PM Walden Hughes <waldenhughes@...> wrote:

Hi Everybody,

 

Neilsen just gave out there report and now the 18 to 34 age group listen to radio more than they watch TV.  TV numbers are falling off the cliffand radio went up 3 percent in this age group.  Take care,

 

Walden