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New Collection Acquired


Ryan Ellett
 

The OTRR Purchasing Group has recently funded the purchase and move of a significant collection. This collection contains roughly 3,000 reels, a few hundred electrical transcriptions, and hundreds of original scripts, photographs, and early fan magazines. There are plenty of old collections of reels this size out in the wild; what is special about this one is that the original owner was a very early collector named Joe Hehn. The majority of these recordings appear to date from the mid-1960s to the early 1970s. Mr. Hehn was heavily involved in the early collector scene and traded with some of the early legends in the hobby. Much of this material is very low-generation; i.e., it is close to the clean sound of a transcription disc without the accumulated hiss that multiple generations of tape copying creates. Joe Webb has started going through the reels. Just in the week since he received them he has discovered several episodes that are not currently in circulation including Big Story, Duffy's Tavern, and Whistler so far. The majority of the rest will still be upgrades to the audio quality of what is currently in our library.

All this to say, by joining the OTRR Purchasing Group (email Jim Wood at OTR@...) you will begin receiving recordings as they are finished and distributed. As with all Purchasing Group material, the shows will eventually be added to our library, usually a year or two (sometimes more) after they've been shared with the members of the Purchasing Group. This is a great time to join the group: it costs only $5 per month, which you can pay by month or in larger chunks at a time. The more members that join the Purchasing Group the more opportunities like this that we can take advantage of.

Can't wait to find out what more goodies will be discovered in this collection!

Ryan


Philip Atchley
 

Ryan

That is great news, and yes, I'm already a member of the OTRRPG group.  In fact I just mailed in the next dues payment (8 months this time).

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Specializing in DXing NDBs (Longwave Beacons)
Phil, KO6BB, http://www.qsl.net/ko6bb/
KO6BB/B beacon, ~20W on 28.290 MHz, Ringo Vertical

HF/LF RADIOS:
YAESU: FTDX-101MP Xceiver, 2 SDR Receivers (~2020)
YAESU: FTDX-3000 Xceiver, DSP IF,300Hz Roofing filter (~2019).
Icom: IC-7200 Xceiver, DSP IF & filters (~2015).
Kenwood: TS-450SAT Xceiver, cascaded 250/125Hz Inrad filters.
10M Beacon: 2 x Realistic HTX-100's on 28.290MHz
HOMEBREW: 7 Tube+Rect 1v3 Regen RX for LF (built 2015)
SDRS: Perseus 10KHz-40MHz (2020)
Softrock Ensemble II LF Receiver (kit, 2017)
Softrock Ensemble II HF Receiver (Kit, 2019)
ACC: MFJ-993B Auto Antenna Matcher.
HOMEBREW LF-MF Pre-Amp, 8Hz Audio Filter.
HOMEBREW 4 Port Antenna Multicoupler, Feeds 4 RX's.
ANTENNAS: 88 foot Long Ladder-line fed dipole, 35 feet AGL for MW/SW.
Active Mini-Whip, 36 Feet AGL for LF/MW/SW.
Wellbrook ALA1530LN Loop For LF/MW/SW at 17 Feet AGL
37 foot "Low Noise Vertical", 11 feet AGL for LF/MW/SW.
Cushcraft AR-10 Ringo Vertical, 14 feet AGL for 10M beacon.
Merced, Central California, 37, 18, 37N 120, 30, 6W CM97rh

On 10/17/2020 7:48 PM, Ryan Ellett via groups.io wrote:
The OTRR Purchasing Group has recently funded the purchase and move of a significant collection. This collection contains roughly 3,000 reels, a few hundred electrical transcriptions, and hundreds of original scripts, photographs, and early fan magazines. There are plenty of old collections of reels this size out in the wild; what is special about this one is that the original owner was a very early collector named Joe Hehn. The majority of these recordings appear to date from the mid-1960s to the early 1970s. Mr. Hehn was heavily involved in the early collector scene and traded with some of the early legends in the hobby. Much of this material is very low-generation; i.e., it is close to the clean sound of a transcription disc without the accumulated hiss that multiple generations of tape copying creates. Joe Webb has started going through the reels. Just in the week since he received them he has discovered several episodes that are not currently in circulation including Big Story, Duffy's Tavern, and Whistler so far. The majority of the rest will still be upgrades to the audio quality of what is currently in our library.

All this to say, by joining the OTRR Purchasing Group (email Jim Wood at OTR@... <mailto:OTR@...>) you will begin receiving recordings as they are finished and distributed. As with all Purchasing Group material, the shows will eventually be added to our library, usually a year or two (sometimes more) after they've been shared with the members of the Purchasing Group. This is a great time to join the group: it costs only $5 per month, which you can pay by month or in larger chunks at a time. The more members that join the Purchasing Group the more opportunities like this that we can take advantage of.

Can't wait to find out what more goodies will be discovered in this collection!

Ryan
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Joe Webb
 

We need some helpers in processing many of these reels. While we find some items that fell out of circulation or were never widely circulated in this collection that is mainly from the late 1960s through the 1970s, there are many upgrades to be had. A Suspense episode, for example, that has circulated for years with clipped ending and no credits with a bad sounding music patch at the end, is here in all of its fullness, unedited, and unpatched.

We could use a Vic & Sade fan with reel decks who can transfer files to wavs and then send them onto someone else who can do the sound processing. V&S episodes in this collection are often not dated and have poor plot descriptions. I think once these are transferred and sound processed these episodes can get a good upgrade.

This person seemed to like recording Notre Dame football games and some other sports. And there are many musical programs. It may turn out that many of the transfers are not upgrades, but there's only one way to find out -- digitize them and put them through audio cleanup. If anyone has reel decks and is good at creating raw transfers, please volunteer if you can. We have folks who can do the audio processing as they do not have decks, and are ready to help out.

The reels are generally 1200' half track @ 7.5ips, which was the standard of the higher end collectors of the time. The squealing tapes have all transferred will with baking or with moisture depending on the kind of tape; everything seems transferable, and much of the sound is wonderful. One of the Night Beat episodes that has never been available in nice sound has been "Gusher James" and there was an extremely nice recording of it here, only a tape generation removed from the original disc recording. Three new Big Story episodes was a shocker the other day -- not a hint that these late series episodes were even available, from AFRS discs.

We could use someone who is very competent at using a document scanner and can make PDFs, and knows how to use document feeders with some mildly delicate scripts.

I still have a lot of sorting to do, so other "specialists" in various series will be needed.

More details about this collection will be coming soon, and it was the OTRR PG that played a key role in this entire enterprise that is still unfolding.

Thanks to everyone involved!!

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Scott Mahan
 

Would you be needing someone to appear in person for document scanning and PDF making or would you be sending me the material?

I do this all day long at the office.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Webb via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:25 AM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] New Collection Acquired

 

We need some helpers in processing many of these reels. While we find some items that fell out of circulation or were never widely circulated in this collection that is mainly from the late 1960s through the 1970s, there are many upgrades to be had. A Suspense episode, for example, that has circulated for years with clipped ending and no credits with a bad sounding music patch at the end, is here in all of its fullness, unedited, and unpatched.

We could use a Vic & Sade fan with reel decks who can transfer files to wavs and then send them onto someone else who can do the sound processing. V&S episodes in this collection are often not dated and have poor plot descriptions. I think once these are transferred and sound processed these episodes can get a good upgrade.

This person seemed to like recording Notre Dame football games and some other sports. And there are many musical programs. It may turn out that many of the transfers are not upgrades, but there's only one way to find out -- digitize them and put them through audio cleanup. If anyone has reel decks and is good at creating raw transfers, please volunteer if you can. We have folks who can do the audio processing as they do not have decks, and are ready to help out.

The reels are generally 1200' half track @ 7.5ips, which was the standard of the higher end collectors of the time. The squealing tapes have all transferred will with baking or with moisture depending on the kind of tape; everything seems transferable, and much of the sound is wonderful. One of the Night Beat episodes that has never been available in nice sound has been "Gusher James" and there was an extremely nice recording of it here, only a tape generation removed from the original disc recording. Three new Big Story episodes was a shocker the other day -- not a hint that these late series episodes were even available, from AFRS discs.

We could use someone who is very competent at using a document scanner and can make PDFs, and knows how to use document feeders with some mildly delicate scripts.

I still have a lot of sorting to do, so other "specialists" in various series will be needed.

More details about this collection will be coming soon, and it was the OTRR PG that played a key role in this entire enterprise that is still unfolding.

Thanks to everyone involved!!

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Damon Fries
 

Sounds very cool, but I get nervous about the “processing” part. I prefer a bit of hiss or noise to shows which all too often are over-processing with the denoiser and lose their treble.   Having said that, I’m willing to do processing in the vein I did with the soap opera collection a few months back, where I tried find a balance between. Hiss/noise and still having treble (which usually means leaving a little bit of hiss in)…..

Anyway, I’m totally up for that - I’m in Europe so can’t really do any transfer though...



Damon



On 19 Oct 2020, at 11:25, Joe Webb via groups.io <drjoewebb@...> wrote:

We need some helpers in processing many of these reels. While we find some items that fell out of circulation or were never widely circulated in this collection that is mainly from the late 1960s through the 1970s, there are many upgrades to be had. A Suspense episode, for example, that has circulated for years with clipped ending and no credits with a bad sounding music patch at the end, is here in all of its fullness, unedited, and unpatched.

We could use a Vic & Sade fan with reel decks who can transfer files to wavs and then send them onto someone else who can do the sound processing. V&S episodes in this collection are often not dated and have poor plot descriptions. I think once these are transferred and sound processed these episodes can get a good upgrade.

This person seemed to like recording Notre Dame football games and some other sports. And there are many musical programs. It may turn out that many of the transfers are not upgrades, but there's only one way to find out -- digitize them and put them through audio cleanup. If anyone has reel decks and is good at creating raw transfers, please volunteer if you can. We have folks who can do the audio processing as they do not have decks, and are ready to help out.

The reels are generally 1200' half track @ 7.5ips, which was the standard of the higher end collectors of the time. The squealing tapes have all transferred will with baking or with moisture depending on the kind of tape; everything seems transferable, and much of the sound is wonderful. One of the Night Beat episodes that has never been available in nice sound has been "Gusher James" and there was an extremely nice recording of it here, only a tape generation removed from the original disc recording. Three new Big Story episodes was a shocker the other day -- not a hint that these late series episodes were even available, from AFRS discs.

We could use someone who is very competent at using a document scanner and can make PDFs, and knows how to use document feeders with some mildly delicate scripts.

I still have a lot of sorting to do, so other "specialists" in various series will be needed.

More details about this collection will be coming soon, and it was the OTRR PG that played a key role in this entire enterprise that is still unfolding.

Thanks to everyone involved!!

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Scott Galley
 

Great news. Being a long standing member, I look forward to this stuff slowly coming out. As soon as we finish CBS Mystery Theater, of course. ;-)

S


Gordon Johansen
 

I could easily make scans of the pages through my hi-speed scanner and turn them into searchable pdfs but I am in Canada. While I don't do it all day long, I do it a lot with business invoices we receive for my store. I'm using an Epson Workforce ES-500W scanner with Filecenter software from Lucion. This OCRs it and makes it a searchable pdf as part of the process.

The only problem would be the cost of shipping things to me in Canada. UPS is about half the price in the US compared to here.

Gord

October 19, 2020 3:25 AM
We need some helpers in processing many of these reels. While we find some items that fell out of circulation or were never widely circulated in this collection that is mainly from the late 1960s through the 1970s, there are many upgrades to be had. A Suspense episode, for example, that has circulated for years with clipped ending and no credits with a bad sounding music patch at the end, is here in all of its fullness, unedited, and unpatched.

We could use a Vic & Sade fan with reel decks who can transfer files to wavs and then send them onto someone else who can do the sound processing. V&S episodes in this collection are often not dated and have poor plot descriptions. I think once these are transferred and sound processed these episodes can get a good upgrade.

This person seemed to like recording Notre Dame football games and some other sports. And there are many musical programs. It may turn out that many of the transfers are not upgrades, but there's only one way to find out -- digitize them and put them through audio cleanup. If anyone has reel decks and is good at creating raw transfers, please volunteer if you can. We have folks who can do the audio processing as they do not have decks, and are ready to help out.

The reels are generally 1200' half track @ 7.5ips, which was the standard of the higher end collectors of the time. The squealing tapes have all transferred will with baking or with moisture depending on the kind of tape; everything seems transferable, and much of the sound is wonderful. One of the Night Beat episodes that has never been available in nice sound has been "Gusher James" and there was an extremely nice recording of it here, only a tape generation removed from the original disc recording. Three new Big Story episodes was a shocker the other day -- not a hint that these late series episodes were even available, from AFRS discs.

We could use someone who is very competent at using a document scanner and can make PDFs, and knows how to use document feeders with some mildly delicate scripts.

I still have a lot of sorting to do, so other "specialists" in various series will be needed.

More details about this collection will be coming soon, and it was the OTRR PG that played a key role in this entire enterprise that is still unfolding.

Thanks to everyone involved!!

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Joe Webb
 
Edited

Gordon:
Scripts can be sent in the US via Media Mail https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htm
and in doing some cost comparison shipping to Canada is 5x-8x the cost depending on the weight and distance.

Scott:
It's a lot of work that needs to be done. The scripts are on legal paper, mimeographed from the late 1940s. In total it's about 5000 sheets!!!!
And it's about evenly split between The Lone Ranger and Sgt. Preston. A similar amount of Green Hornet scripts is also being done and I found a volunteer for that pile already.
Let me know if you have interest, but it is a lot of work and doing it at work may not be the best idea, but you know your situation best.

Damon:
I've heard your processing and you have the right touch and sense of things. I will keep you in mind if we can get some reel and cassette volunteers and they can send the files to you over a cloud service.


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Scott Mahan
 

There’s no problem. Nobody will care. Among my many other jobs at the office, I approve the Multi-Function-Device invoice and, what with the COVID-19 and off-site workers, there’s no way we’ll use all our pre-paid click-charge with Kyocera this year. So it won’t cost anything. Things that don’t cost money are disposable. And I have my own TASKalfa 3051ci, which if you Google it is a mighty fine device and, which again, what with the COVID, mostly just sits there. It’s sad, it’s rated at 5000 pages/day duty cycle but right now it puts out like 10 pages a day, but that’s the current office environment. However, I guess it’s good to have something to do and not be dead, so I’m still there, 75 days into my not-retirement. I’ve used the document feeder on wrinkled stuff and three-hole-punch (which is the worst!) and it does well on everything. You just have to pre-sort, stack neatly and inspect for FOD. Been through this with reams of old HR stuff. What I’m less confident of is the OCR.  I remember mimeograph output from Elementary School (I was in charge of that machine also J), so once it’s scanned it will be interesting to see how that smudge resolves into text. The invoices that I scan in to Acrobat turn out perfect, but blurry typography, who knows? Why don’t you send me a couple or five of hundred pages and see if I can make it work? If it turns out well, then I’ll do more.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Webb via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:39 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] New Collection Acquired

 

Gordon:
Scripts can be sent in the US via Media Mail https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htm
and in doing some cost comparison shipping to Canada is 5x-8x the cost depending on the weight and distance.

Scott:
It's a lot of work that needs to be done. The scripts are on legal paper, mimeographed from the late 1940s. In total it's about 5000 sheets!!!!
And it's about evenly split between The Lone Ranger and Sgt. Preston. A similar amount of Green Hornet scripts is also being done and I found a volunteer for that, pile already.
Let me know if you have interest, but it is a lot of work and doing it at work may not be the best idea, but you know your situation best.

Damon:
I've heard your processing and you have the right touch and sense of things. I will keep you in mind if we can get some reel and cassette volunteers and they can send the files to you over a cloud service.


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not.serious@comcast.net
 

Scott,

Just thinking out loud. If OTRR is a non-profit (is it?), the copies you make may be a tax deduction. Every bit helps. It requires documentation.

Joe Salerno (new member of OTRR, just learning my way around)


On 10/20/2020 6:40 AM, Scott Mahan wrote:

There’s no problem. Nobody will care. Among my many other jobs at the office, I approve the Multi-Function-Device invoice and, what with the COVID-19 and off-site workers, there’s no way we’ll use all our pre-paid click-charge with Kyocera this year. So it won’t cost anything. Things that don’t cost money are disposable. And I have my own TASKalfa 3051ci, which if you Google it is a mighty fine device and, which again, what with the COVID, mostly just sits there. It’s sad, it’s rated at 5000 pages/day duty cycle but right now it puts out like 10 pages a day, but that’s the current office environment. However, I guess it’s good to have something to do and not be dead, so I’m still there, 75 days into my not-retirement. I’ve used the document feeder on wrinkled stuff and three-hole-punch (which is the worst!) and it does well on everything. You just have to pre-sort, stack neatly and inspect for FOD. Been through this with reams of old HR stuff. What I’m less confident of is the OCR.  I remember mimeograph output from Elementary School (I was in charge of that machine also J), so once it’s scanned it will be interesting to see how that smudge resolves into text. The invoices that I scan in to Acrobat turn out perfect, but blurry typography, who knows? Why don’t you send me a couple or five of hundred pages and see if I can make it work? If it turns out well, then I’ll do more.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Webb via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:39 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] New Collection Acquired

 

Gordon:
Scripts can be sent in the US via Media Mail https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htm
and in doing some cost comparison shipping to Canada is 5x-8x the cost depending on the weight and distance.

Scott:
It's a lot of work that needs to be done. The scripts are on legal paper, mimeographed from the late 1940s. In total it's about 5000 sheets!!!!
And it's about evenly split between The Lone Ranger and Sgt. Preston. A similar amount of Green Hornet scripts is also being done and I found a volunteer for that, pile already.
Let me know if you have interest, but it is a lot of work and doing it at work may not be the best idea, but you know your situation best.

Damon:
I've heard your processing and you have the right touch and sense of things. I will keep you in mind if we can get some reel and cassette volunteers and they can send the files to you over a cloud service.


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Ryan Ellett
 

Hi Joe, the idea of becoming an official 501c3 has been kicked around over the years but we've never found a compelling enough reason to do so in relation to the accompanying requirements.
Ryan

www.RyanEllett.com


The Old Time Radio Researchers
"Saving the Past for the Future"

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www.OTRRLibrary.org



On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 08:54:54 AM CDT, not.serious@... <not.serious@...> wrote:


Scott,

Just thinking out loud. If OTRR is a non-profit (is it?), the copies you make may be a tax deduction. Every bit helps. It requires documentation.

Joe Salerno (new member of OTRR, just learning my way around)


On 10/20/2020 6:40 AM, Scott Mahan wrote:

There’s no problem. Nobody will care. Among my many other jobs at the office, I approve the Multi-Function-Device invoice and, what with the COVID-19 and off-site workers, there’s no way we’ll use all our pre-paid click-charge with Kyocera this year. So it won’t cost anything. Things that don’t cost money are disposable. And I have my own TASKalfa 3051ci, which if you Google it is a mighty fine device and, which again, what with the COVID, mostly just sits there. It’s sad, it’s rated at 5000 pages/day duty cycle but right now it puts out like 10 pages a day, but that’s the current office environment. However, I guess it’s good to have something to do and not be dead, so I’m still there, 75 days into my not-retirement. I’ve used the document feeder on wrinkled stuff and three-hole-punch (which is the worst!) and it does well on everything. You just have to pre-sort, stack neatly and inspect for FOD. Been through this with reams of old HR stuff. What I’m less confident of is the OCR.  I remember mimeograph output from Elementary School (I was in charge of that machine also J), so once it’s scanned it will be interesting to see how that smudge resolves into text. The invoices that I scan in to Acrobat turn out perfect, but blurry typography, who knows? Why don’t you send me a couple or five of hundred pages and see if I can make it work? If it turns out well, then I’ll do more.

 

From: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io <main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Webb via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:39 PM
To: main@OldTimeRadioResearchers.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OldTimeRadioResearchers] New Collection Acquired

 

Gordon:
Scripts can be sent in the US via Media Mail https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htm
and in doing some cost comparison shipping to Canada is 5x-8x the cost depending on the weight and distance.

Scott:
It's a lot of work that needs to be done. The scripts are on legal paper, mimeographed from the late 1940s. In total it's about 5000 sheets!!!!
And it's about evenly split between The Lone Ranger and Sgt. Preston. A similar amount of Green Hornet scripts is also being done and I found a volunteer for that, pile already.
Let me know if you have interest, but it is a lot of work and doing it at work may not be the best idea, but you know your situation best.

Damon:
I've heard your processing and you have the right touch and sense of things. I will keep you in mind if we can get some reel and cassette volunteers and they can send the files to you over a cloud service.


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Gordon Johansen
 

That's what I thought might be the case but thought I would offer. The cross border shipping is always an issue I have to deal with for my business. It's not just the shipping but the brokerage fees can kill you too.

Gord

Joe Webb via groups.io wrote on 10/19/20 3:38 PM:

Gordon:
Scripts can be sent in the US via Media Mail https://about.usps.com/notices/not121/not121_tech.htm
and in doing some cost comparison shipping to Canada is 5x-8x the cost depending on the weight and distance.

Scott:
It's a lot of work that needs to be done. The scripts are on legal paper, mimeographed from the late 1940s. In total it's about 5000 sheets!!!!
And it's about evenly split between The Lone Ranger and Sgt. Preston. A similar amount of Green Hornet scripts is also being done and I found a volunteer for that, pile already.
Let me know if you have interest, but it is a lot of work and doing it at work may not be the best idea, but you know your situation best.

Damon:
I've heard your processing and you have the right touch and sense of things. I will keep you in mind if we can get some reel and cassette volunteers and they can send the files to you over a cloud service.


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